tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post116733536206710508..comments2011-12-26T07:43:02.350-08:00indscribehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17073543434209800940noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-50823824371615661782009-12-31T02:10:29.039-08:002009-12-31T02:10:29.039-08:00This is completely unfair.. They can check veiled-women at the entrances and exits to reassure themselves of security or stolen jewellery, if they are so frightened. But banning them completely is undiginified to such Muslim women, which is definitely an abuse of Human rights. An end result would also be a definite loss to their business profit.<br /><br />Unfortunately, some people who are not well-aware of Islamic rulings disseminate the wrong image about Islam. As opposed to the claims of such people, the veil worn by Muslim women comes from the wives of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), and they were the best of women of all times to come. Even they didn&#39;t cover themselves in Hajj, but when other ale pilgrims were present in their vicinity, they dropped their veils as well.<br />I attended University, and attained a Master&#39;s Degree wearing the veil out of my own choice and free will to achieve the pleasure of Allah, The Almighty. Allah revealed the command to cover your beauty, from certain people, in the Quran. Now it depends whether you consider you consider your face beautiful or ugly. Intelligent people would realise that the face is the main attraction. <br />This life is just a test to see how much of Allah&#39;s rules we follow. And may Allah guide us all. AmeenS. Anisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-48610817726825558252009-06-24T13:36:58.529-07:002009-06-24T13:36:58.529-07:00@Mariam<br /> I think you are one of the most intelligent muslima i have every come across (on internet). Your argument is very rational. I think pakistan women are more progressive compared to indian muslim women, probably because of lack of education.Girishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-8092668633436105352009-04-19T14:57:00.001-07:002009-04-19T14:57:00.001-07:00Arvind,<br /><br />Congratulations on your marriage !....<br /><br />But whatever you might say, I feel that it is good if the husband and wife belong to the same religion or both should decide to become atheist/agnostic. <br /><br />This will be especially good for the children.In the Indian context, it is better if the woman converts. Conversions to Hinduism are performed by organizations like Arya Samaj etc.....<br /><br />Otherwise , it is better if the husband converts.<br /><br />Even after conversion, one can respect the other religions. In fact I feel that a person should try to learn useful information for books of all religions.....Venkathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18024837293369229902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-62597012225589525022009-04-19T14:57:00.000-07:002009-04-19T14:57:00.000-07:00Arvind,<br /><br />Congratulations on your marriage !....<br /><br />But whatever you might say, I feel that it is good if the husband and wife belong to the same religion or both should decide to become atheist/agnostic. <br /><br />This will be especially good for the children.In the Indian context, it is better if the woman converts. Conversions to Hinduism are performed by organizations like Arya Samaj etc.....<br /><br />Otherwise , it is better if the husband converts.<br /><br />Even after conversion, one can respect the other religions. In fact I feel that a person should try to learn useful information for books of all religions.....Venkathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18024837293369229902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-20635281154807933352009-04-03T11:25:00.000-07:002009-04-03T11:25:00.000-07:00My name is Aravind working as a software engineer and my family is orthodox Hindu family. recently <BR/>I have married a Muslim Girl(College Mate)In my first sight i lost my heart to my beautiful Angel) we have crossed many obstacles(especially from both families) and finally we succeed. <BR/>i don't want change my religion, and i also don't want to insist to change her religion. now my family accepts her. but her family didn't accept our decision. i hope they will accept us later<BR/>please encourage inter-religious marriage if both are loving each other truly and don't make communal.Aravindnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-22809241657145788052009-03-30T14:34:00.000-07:002009-03-30T14:34:00.000-07:00The main hurdle for marriages between muslim boys and hindu girls is Polygamy,talaq etc. If UCC exists, the problem will be less. Who wants their sis/daughter getting into situations like that. We all know how much love may or may not remain after hormones subside. Fatwa may not matter to the educated few. But to others it matters. Burqa can be allowed but security checks should be allowed. Insisting on a lady doing check is asking these shops to go out of their way to accommodate a few customers. ads you mentioned most of these burqa clad women go to small shops. this would be unreasonable demand. Compromise has to be by both sides. What era is it? Can't show face? If her insecurity is seen justified, more justified is the insecurity of jewellers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-44320664134889639262008-01-28T05:36:00.000-08:002008-01-28T05:36:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1168048127190100602007-01-05T17:48:00.000-08:002007-01-05T17:48:00.000-08:00My point is give a woman choice and if she rejects to follow one's rule then please do not call her unbeliever. Women don’t call men names if they don’t abide by certain rulers. In my view it’s criminal to force illiterate to follow the rules which are not written in Quran which a complete book. This is old ploy if some Muslim question senseless ways then call her/him Kafir. BTW, I’m not a Non Muslim. Maybe I’m too passionate when it comes to women suppression. I’ve seen families where young women are not allowed to go out without veil, unaccompanied, can’t be photographed and neither allowed to see TV as these all things were considered haram. Now isn’t this insane nothing was invented at that time. We no longer live in a tent and eat dates we have moved to nice and comfortable homes and take advantage of today’s technology but when it comes to women some wants us to live like a fourteen century. I wonder why and what happened to lower your gaze men. If every Muslim women is willingly wearing veil then what’s the problem? I’ve nothing against you or anyone who thinks wearing something make us more Muslim but I’ve a right to question it and say the truth when vast human kind are being fooled.<BR/><BR/>You said,<BR/><I>Dress code during Hajj is not general dress code for Muslims <B>culturally</B>.</I><BR/><BR/>That’s my whole point veil is a cultural thing not a Islamic. <BR/><BR/>You said,<BR/><I>If it were, we men would be wandering around clad in a white cloth too.</I><BR/><BR/>By choice, Men have adopted to the modern clothes so give women a choice too and by logic it couldn’t be conservative than the Hajj. <BR/><BR/>BTW, we are just talking into circles and it ain't worth it when there are more issues such as illiteracy which is highest among Muslim women and to some extent men, Infant mortality, widows and orphan welfare is still needed to be reached to decent marks. These all things are given superiority in our religion and we all should to work to improve it by engaging our women not putting them behind closed doors.<BR/><BR/>Thanks Adnan for tolerating us ;). You're a gem. I love your Aligarian site too. My family hailed from Dehli and few are still there but most are in Karachi. The way things are going between India and Pakistan maybe some day I’ll visit India and see where I come from.Mariamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09636846688067520332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1168008066616469612007-01-05T06:41:00.000-08:002007-01-05T06:41:00.000-08:00Lets stop this seemingly fruitless discussion and save Adnan's efforts.<BR/><BR/><B>Mariam, you are at your own will, so are others.</B> But, please refrain from making sweeping remarks like <I>"few women like to wear veil"</I>.<BR/><BR/><B>Below, I talk only on social grounds:</B><BR/><BR/>Is your insistence on women NOT wearing hijab <B>any better than</B> someone else insisting that you wear a hijab? Are you going to TOLERATE it? Mustn't insistence on either side be restricted, be it for or against.<BR/><BR/>Dress code during Hajj is not general dress code for Muslims culturally. If it were, we men would be wandering around clad in a white cloth too.<BR/><BR/>For all I know, you may not be a real <B>Mariam</B>.<BR/><BR/>But I know, it is human tendency to like extremism. Insisting that Muslims should not insist in their cultural capacity for anything is only the other end of extremism, which is a lesser known greater evil.urdudaaNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10918092575492102161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167989753399394182007-01-05T01:35:00.000-08:002007-01-05T01:35:00.000-08:00History Lover, <BR/><BR/>This <A HREF="http://www.parvez-video.com/veil.asp" REL="nofollow">link</A> might help you. BTW, feel free to quote Quran if I'm mistaken.<BR/><BR/>Few women like to wear veil, does it matter if religion doesn’t support it. Islam is one of the first religion which gave equal rights to a woman please don’t take it away.Mariamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09636846688067520332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167989429412747132007-01-05T01:30:00.000-08:002007-01-05T01:30:00.000-08:00Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>Go there and read the post again it has nothing to do with religion. If only girl's family is religious then they would've known that Islam allows adults to marry whom they please. That’s why during nikah both bride and groom had to say yes in a loud voice so everyone make sure they weren’t forced into this marriage and now their signatures are needed on a nikah nama not their parents.<BR/><BR/>It’s a shameful act and culprits need to be punished according to the assault laws.Mariamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09636846688067520332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167989385222520942007-01-05T01:29:00.000-08:002007-01-05T01:29:00.000-08:00Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>Go there and read the post again it has nothing to do with religion. If only girl's family is religious then they would've known that Islam allows adults to marry whom they please. That’s why during nikah both bride and groom had to say yes in a loud voice so everyone make sure they’ weren’t forced into this marriage and now their signatures are needed on a nikah nama not their parents.<BR/><BR/>It’s a shameful act and culprits need to be punished according to the assault laws.Mariamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09636846688067520332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167972268818894722007-01-04T20:44:00.000-08:002007-01-04T20:44:00.000-08:00Mariam<BR/>Without turning this site into another debating ground of the perennial Niqab/Hijab debate,I would just like to add that some aalims (and not all)hold that women should wear Niqab.<BR/>I quote<BR/>"Suffice it to say, from an Islamic point-of-view, a woman who wears the full-face veil (niqab) is not automatically and inherently more pious than a woman who doesn't, any more than a man who grows a full beard is necessarily better than all those who have shorter ones…so let's put such facile thinking aside. However, there's no doubt, like it or not, that the face veil is not only a well-known symbol of Muslim piety, but it has a well-established place within classical Islamic jurisprudence as well. To the fair-minded and informed, it should be undeniable that pious Muslim women in the past have donned the veil out of a commendable sense of God-consciousness (taqwa) and modesty (haya')...and many of those who did so were mainstream Sufis and strict adherents to the four Sunni madhhabs (i.e. not extremists or "Wahabis")."<BR/><BR/>From http://www.mereislam.info/2006/11/face-veillets-be-honest.html.<BR/><BR/>The book- Reliance of the traveller which is a well respected manual of the Shafii madhab also supports the Niqab position based on the interpretation of the Quranic directive to the Prophet (SAW)'s wives (RA). <BR/>Clarification :<BR/>I am not suggesting that that every muslima should wear niqab.I am only arguing that wearing niqab is a valid islamic practice and must be respected by us fellow muslims.<BR/>As for detailed theological arguments for niqab and how they are derived from an interpretation of the Quran,consult a good fiqh book or ask any of the ulema a haq.history_loverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03750694652027395279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167897793124584612007-01-04T00:03:00.000-08:002007-01-04T00:03:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.history_loverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03750694652027395279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167889070969499872007-01-03T21:37:00.000-08:002007-01-03T21:37:00.000-08:00About the adult lovers can't marry...see this one from <BR/><BR/>http://pakistaniat.com/2007/01/03/love-cut-nose-ear/<BR/><BR/>Makes me feel ashamed of being Muslim. Yes you will say that those who do this arent real followers of Islam - but then where are the real followers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167885528231193012007-01-03T20:38:00.000-08:002007-01-03T20:38:00.000-08:00Quran is a COMPLETE, PERFECT AND FULLY DETAILED BOOK: See 6:19.,38 and 114; 7:52; 17:12; 11:1; 41:3; 12:111, and 16:89. There is no mention of veil in it that’s why women from centuries perform Umra and Hajj unveiled. <BR/><BR/>I’m not questioning someone’s belief but if one is allowed to take off the veil to perform Hajj then they should take into consideration others people’s limitations too. <BR/><BR/>BTW, not one of the blogger has answered my question about why its OK to perform Umra and Hajj <A HREF="http://www.hajinformation.com/main/t25.htm" REL="nofollow">unveiled</A> but insist to cover one’s face on religious ground (while there is nothing Quran to support it)? Then we all wonder why Non Muslims call us impossible.Mariamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09636846688067520332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167815670514464832007-01-03T01:14:00.001-08:002007-01-03T01:14:00.001-08:00Mariam a minority of scholars support Niqab so no it is not just a 'cultural thing'.<BR/>We need to keep in mind that islamic injunctions require we have a different attitude to life - We need to develop Taqwa in everything we do.We were created to worship Allah as per the Quranhistory_loverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03750694652027395279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167815656057394452007-01-03T01:14:00.000-08:002007-01-03T01:14:00.000-08:00Mariam a minority of scholars support Niqab so no it is not just a 'cultural thing'.<BR/>We need to keep in mind that islamic injunctions require we have a different attitude to life - We need to develop Taqwa in everything we do.We were created to worship Allah as per the Quranhistory_loverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03750694652027395279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167808070409254582007-01-02T23:07:00.000-08:002007-01-02T23:07:00.000-08:00"<I>this attitude towards Muslims and burqa in Europe would not affect me </I>"<BR/><BR/>But, it <B>does affect me</B>, as I start <B>anticipating the same action</B> in my own country.urdudaaNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10918092575492102161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167804555088212942007-01-02T22:09:00.000-08:002007-01-02T22:09:00.000-08:00Though, I vehemently oppose Burqas, but I do not like this ban at all. By the way, the ban has been called off and I expected it to go that way.Digantahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04469151692994395377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167733970891060182007-01-02T02:32:00.000-08:002007-01-02T02:32:00.000-08:00"Too bad Jewelers had to back off due some people's <B>narrow mindedness</B>. It's the people like them who give Muslims <I>bad name</I>."<BR/><BR/><B>Just some borrowed adjectives rehearsed here!</B><BR/><BR/><I>Somehow the logic (if at all) goes like this:</I><BR/><B>If you are a MUSLIM and you:</B><BR/>1> react to a cartoon, you don't have appreciation for freedom of expression.<BR/>2> fight for you mother land, you are a terrorist.<BR/>3> fight for wearing clothes of your choice and you are a conservative.<BR/><BR/><B>Let me tell mariam about others' fatwas:</B><BR/>1> All muslims are terrorists.<BR/>2> Beef eating makes you a wild animal.<BR/>3> Madrasas are terrorist centres.<BR/>4> Muslims can't be trusted in matters of security.urdudaaNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10918092575492102161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167733645846733792007-01-02T02:27:00.000-08:002007-01-02T02:27:00.000-08:00Indscribe, the problem with fatwas is that they come from the clergy and when they do, more often than not, people follow them. I would love to see a lot of Muslims coming out strongly against the clerics issuing these stupid fatwas and against SIMI and their ilk, just as a lot of Hindus (some choose to call them psuedo-secular) often criticize the VHP and other similar bigots.Mayureshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167730063517976982007-01-02T01:27:00.000-08:002007-01-02T01:27:00.000-08:00Who cares for such fatwas. These are just opinions based on their own interpretations often terribly biased. <BR/>These fatwas exist for over a millennia and whenever someone asks for opinion, the old fatwa is again dished out as 'tajdeed'. <BR/>Even Deobandis term Barelvis as non-Muslims and vice versa. Most sects have fatwas about other sects. Waise main bhi sunni hun :)indscribehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17073543434209800940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167707505541667812007-01-01T19:11:00.000-08:002007-01-01T19:11:00.000-08:00Too bad Jewelers had to back off due some people's narrow mindedness. It's the people like them who give Muslims bad name. It's not possible to frisk someone then try to do business with.<BR/><BR/>I still can't get it these women can go to Saudi Arabia without veil but can't enter a shop without one. It's call hypocrisy.<BR/><BR/>Hmm, Speaking of Fatwas and Saudis<BR/><BR/>Here's another one.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://eteraz.org/story/2007/1/1/53558/61541" REL="nofollow">Saudi Fatwa declaring all Shias Infidels</A><BR/><BR/>P.S. If you're wondering I was born into Sunni family.Mariamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09636846688067520332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-1167554210517334382006-12-31T00:36:00.000-08:002006-12-31T00:36:00.000-08:00Darul Ifta Bhopal's fatwa:<BR/>The entire fatwa read that 'use of contraceptives is prohibited unless circumstances are compelling or medically needed. <BR/>It further says that in such a situation, etc etc<BR/>However, only the first part 'use of contraceptives is haraam' was taken up by channels/papers/agencies. <BR/>However, India is a democratic, secular nation and fatwa is an opinion. If a fatwa says that use of contraceptives is haraam and no matter what compulsion, you can'tuse them, even then I don't think it is binding. Neither most Muslims go by them. yeh niyat ka maamla hai...they do their job, people will do theirs<BR/>aur farmaiye, kya haalchaal haiN, baqrid ki mubarakbaad.indscribehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17073543434209800940noreply@blogger.com