tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post2206607019564765271..comments2023-12-25T18:31:06.166+05:30Comments on Indian Muslim Blog: News And Views about Indian Muslims: Falsehoods about terrorism: 'Islamic' and 'un-Islamic' terrorists [Indian Muslims and Media]Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-41938676298776777682013-03-19T16:25:06.549+05:302013-03-19T16:25:06.549+05:30Just Wanted to Thank You :)
Feeling Really Good af...Just Wanted to Thank You :)<br />Feeling Really Good after reading a Great Article and Comments Above...<br />I'm a Pakistani Muslim & I'm Proud of It..<br />No Matter What hipocritic MEDIA call us.<br /><a href="http://pikchermania.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Picture Mania</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10789856456687087005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-66508357772119232142011-08-21T18:47:30.484+05:302011-08-21T18:47:30.484+05:30This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-58342697411399926552010-05-20T14:19:23.977+05:302010-05-20T14:19:23.977+05:30Absolutly right... if the basic thing is followed ...Absolutly right... if the basic thing is followed the judgement becomes easy. Live and Let Live. These all are terrosirt, 'cause they are aginst constitution, their aggression is leading to humiliation, frastration and partition in society.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-43040320861217600502009-05-18T20:28:00.000+05:302009-05-18T20:28:00.000+05:30Terrorism or murdur,oppression,or selfishness and ...Terrorism or murdur,oppression,or selfishness and sin is never right no matter what group that does it wether they call themselves a religious group or not.God our Creator never intented his people to live this way at all.Yes there may be times to defend ourselves or our families from attack but never to gain political or religious power which is only sin against God and our fellow man.The root problem of it all is the sinful nature of human beings since the Garden of Eden and Adam and Eves disobedience to God in eating the forbidden fruit we have all become sinners in rebellion against God.The only way out of it all was given by God himself who clothed Adam and Eve after their sinful fall.But faith in Jesus can save us who died for all our sins on the cross and rose again from the dead,and is alive forevermore. Repent and trust him as your God and Saviour and have eternal life as a gift from God.Thank You,Sincerely;GeorgeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-83089248924493559792009-05-18T12:02:00.000+05:302009-05-18T12:02:00.000+05:30Maoists are not "terrorists". They are insurgents ...Maoists are not "terrorists". They are insurgents with a rock-solid support base in population.They dont indiscriminately kill people.They mainly feed on the injustices committed on the "real minorities of India" like tribals who are not considered a vote-bank. Terrorists use "mass causality attacks" to expend hidden fantasy of "sections" of population. That is why they try to get as much media-hype as possible. Wondered why after committing such barbaric acts with bodies strewn around..they want media to see that? If you have followed terrorism..you can see that individuals who commit(plan and execute) such acts are very intelligent people capable of strategic thinking..<br />ps: I am a BJP supporter and anti-commie..just for the recordJadev,Indianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-79949388280227588582009-05-15T15:30:00.000+05:302009-05-15T15:30:00.000+05:30Good grief..how could I have not seen this earlier...Good grief..how could I have not seen this earlier. well researched, relevant and original as in it makes a coherent argument. If you separate imperialism from Islamism then the word terrorism dies its natural death.<br />thanks for this excellent educative post. Hope more and more people read it and see the light.<br />RR<br /><br />P.S. Some of the comments here are just do disposable..typically 'mediatised' versions of reality.<br />Adnan Mian: yeh tau irony bantee ja rahee haye ke "is ghar ko aag lag gayee ghar ke chiragh se". The ghar of course is the media empire that you are a part of!!!Raza Rumihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08606406247331495062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-61581466857906544042009-05-01T17:33:00.000+05:302009-05-01T17:33:00.000+05:30Ya. . . I have noticed that too, the number of let...Ya. . . I have noticed that too, the number of letters to editor from muslims is less. . I used to mail a lot. . But only three were published and that too after a lot of 'edits' . But now that you remind, i think ya! We need to express ourselves more. Though im not sure bout 'delegations' . Maybe im being extra paranoid . . . Khair <br />id like to add that comparing the rules in a muslim country to others' is not a very gr8 base. . . <br />every country has a law, if a country chooses to enforce the law of a religion as its state law. . It may well do so. And then that religion becomes the law. <br />after this the question is whether the rulers are just in the way they practice , i.e. WHO WILL GUARD THE GUARDIANS i . For all we know, this problem exists in every country every law. . . Islamic nations get more focus coz of the very obvious reasons. <br />the next question is , is Islamic Law really a 'terrifying' law and if it is , is it lesser or more terrifying than other religions' laws. . This would require a study of religions by the people who have these doubts . . <br /><br />and sayin indian muslims are islamically lower than others and SO the fatwas by our people is not significant is like sayin 'tum bura karoge to hum uchhalenge, tum bhala karoge to hum bahana nikalenge'. . . . <br />so <br />if a muslim does something i dnt like i say 'see. . He folows islam thats why' <br />if a muslim does sumthin i dnt like i say 'ohhh . . Dats nt d real islam'. . . <br />bottomline . . . <br />i hate islam. <br /><br />again maybe im being over paranoid . . . Khair. . <br />im being forced to. . . By this 'na khaate chain , na ugalte chain' situation.Almas Kiran Shamimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15490672837424765800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-76940021346355317482009-05-01T10:47:00.000+05:302009-05-01T10:47:00.000+05:30Worlds 20% of population is Muslims. There are so ...Worlds 20% of population is Muslims. There are so many Muslim dominated countries where they can have the rules and freedom they want. There are Muslims in other democratic countries. Still, the only topics of interest to talk about Muslims seem to be terrorism, islam is good or bad, whether Muslims advocate violence, burqa, beard, mosque. Is not there anything else to talk about? Something that would have benefitted mankind(No oil, it is natural resource). No logic on this earth can explain this irony or sad state of affairs which Muslims themselves have gotten into.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-33263869386676599332009-04-29T01:24:00.000+05:302009-04-29T01:24:00.000+05:30Let me offer a contrary opinion, if I may.
It cer...Let me offer a contrary opinion, if I may.<br /><br />It certainly is true, as you say, that "Entire Muslim clergy in India has termed them as terrorists and issued fatwas against them."<br /><br />However, in the view of non-Moslems, Indian Islam is generally viewed as less authentically Islamic than Islam as practiced in nations that are predominantly Islamic, and much less than the Islam of countries ruled by shari'a and an ulemaa.<br /><br />This is not surprising. These islamic nations themselves say that they are more authentically Islamic than nations like India, in which compromises are allegedly made so as to not offend the non-Moslem majority.<br /><br />And, in such countries, the use of violence by individuals in order to advance religious objectives is frequently supported by the ulemaa as a religious imperative when conducted against apostates, heterodoxists, hertecis, and non-believers.<br /><br />Inasmuch as Islam asserts itself to be a universal religion, non-Moslems tend to view with curiosity a statement by Indian imams that is substantially different from statements by those in major Islamic centers such as Makka, Qom, etc.<br /><br />Thus, while what you say is true, it is also true that as long as the major world centers of Islam indicate that Islam not merely sanctions but would demand that violence be waged against those whose only offense may have been to believe differently (an Ahmaddiya Moslem, or an apostate from Islam), a level of cognitive dissonance will persist.<br /><br />As long as the view exists that Islam is indisolubly linked with the advocacy of violence in ways that contravene values such as the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, public opinions will persist.<br /><br />Of course, you are right that other groups are also terrorists (Naxalites, etc.) but that does not negate the point that Islam is widely viewed by non-Moslems as being linked, in part, to the advocacy of terrorism.<br /><br />So, if your point is that Islamic violence (and by imputation Islam itself) should be viewed as equally terrorist as the ideology of the Naxalites, you may succeed.<br /><br />However, when you note that there might be a "campaign to spread the word 'All Muslims are not terrorists but...'" a ready retort by non-Moslems may well be 'All Muslims are not terrorists but Islam as described by Islamic clerics in nations that are based on Islamic law does in fact support and justify terrorism.'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-61598294099708986392009-04-28T14:59:00.000+05:302009-04-28T14:59:00.000+05:30i agree.. anyone who spreads terror is a terrorist...i agree.. anyone who spreads terror is a terrorist. <br /><br />I read today abt the Fatwa that makes it mandatory for all muslims to vote. Wonderful! The next thing we need is a Fatwa making it mandatory for all Muslims to send their children to school.. to not confuse religion with personal identity.. no wait, this is not even part of ur post.. but I thought abt it after reading ur post.. that Fatwa was progressive.. at the very least. But to think of oneself as just a "Muslim voter" is not so progressive..How do we knowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01763488475931737293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-50433028435122702412009-04-28T14:28:00.000+05:302009-04-28T14:28:00.000+05:30Anon, Vani, Sandeep ji @ thanks for your valuable ...Anon, Vani, Sandeep ji @ thanks for your valuable comments.<br /><br />Jalpari @ Yes it will change. Many don't even realise the difference. If they are told, they think and then can make a distinction.<br /><br />Protest doesn't mean coming to streets. It means delegations of Muslims including non-Mulsims meeting the media barons and informing them about the practice and with concrete evidence, apprise them about genuine grievanec regarding portrayal of Muslism.<br /><br />You will be surprised to know that the the number of Muslims among those writing 'letters to editors' is very less. <br /><br />Danesh bhai, Alicia, Shreya, Pinku ji, Islam and the West @ Thank you so much for your take on the issue.<br /><br />Anon @ As someone just pointed out...terrorism is use of violene that instills fear....mindless killing is terrorism.<br /><br />the point is that Naxalism should be termed Naxal terrorism and Naga terrorism or ULFA-led terrorism or LTTE terrorism...rather than using softer words. <br /><br />Urdudaan Sb @ I am speechless for the moment :)editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17073543434209800940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-28277258394336039412009-04-28T14:27:00.000+05:302009-04-28T14:27:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17073543434209800940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-87161636334415377392009-04-28T03:39:00.000+05:302009-04-28T03:39:00.000+05:30"They are hurt and angry but they don't protest pr..."They are hurt and angry but they don't protest properly, by approaching the news channels and take legal ways to fight this malaise, which is causing a deep crisis for Indian Muslims and the image of Islam."<br /><br /><B>I would call this as the quote of the century by an educated Muslim.</B>urdudaaNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15797516569362933089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-69286131772187528762009-04-27T13:42:00.000+05:302009-04-27T13:42:00.000+05:30Bhai...i thought the same things when i read about...Bhai...i thought the same things when i read about the incidents...thanks for putting it into words.<br /><br />I have no answers...just a hope that the few who still can think rationally will raise the hands and heads and be counted...no matter which community they belong to.Pinkuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06714914168230658950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-25613087188917516912009-04-27T10:46:00.000+05:302009-04-27T10:46:00.000+05:30It is sad to see how terrorism can be linked to an...It is sad to see how terrorism can be linked to any religion at all. Religion is a way of remembering god and praising him for all he has done for us. it is also a rule book for each one of us regarding the details on how to live life. I feel bad as to how Muslim people are looked upon in India today. it is sad to see that. Islam is one of the most beutiful Religions that I have ever come across. Media portrays this culture as if it is made to kill other people. I do not think so. I am a born In a hindu family but i Am an Indian first. i wish this idea of muslim terrorism is done with as soon as possible. I am always going to support the Right and not follow false images shown by the media or anyone else. we need to stop fighting on the basis of religion Or indirectly on the basis of GOD!Shreyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-72397154774254835672009-04-26T22:49:00.000+05:302009-04-26T22:49:00.000+05:30It is politically correct and advantageous to link...It is politically correct and advantageous to link Islam to terrorism and vice versa. The only people that this synthesised nexus fools are the bigots.Islam And The Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15514906484979605304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-84052416081131099722009-04-26T17:33:00.000+05:302009-04-26T17:33:00.000+05:30@ Anonymous (22:31)
Get a life,grow up!Stop livin...@ Anonymous (22:31)<br /><br />Get a life,grow up!Stop living in a fool's paradise accept that terrorism even exists without the involvement of ISI or any other foreign funding in India!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-61458061824525498092009-04-26T14:33:00.000+05:302009-04-26T14:33:00.000+05:30.:) the above comment is just the kind of reaction....:) the above comment is just the kind of reaction i spoke of :) <br />if you say every person who causes terror should be called a terrorist, they say you are 'making excuses in the defence of jihadis' ...... If you say Muslim terrorists are not the only terrorists, they say 'you have love for the jihadi groups'. <br />.......... <br />every time you show whats wrong in others (without denying the wrong in you), you'd be told that since you pointed out others, it shows that you are trying to justify your own wrong doings. . . And then the whole topic would take a different turn. . . <br />and the issue you had raised in the first place would vanish into thin air. . . . <br />leavin you to prove that you are not a terrorist supporter. <br />,,,,,,, <br />and the cycle repeats ......Almas Kiran Shamimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15490672837424765800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-22044553468642212372009-04-26T11:01:00.000+05:302009-04-26T11:01:00.000+05:30I wonder what makes you think that naxals and ULFA...I wonder what makes you think that naxals and ULFA dont have any muslim cadres? If you read their ideologies, they say any one who is poor and oppressed ( for naxals) and any one who supports the cause of a separate nation of assam ( for ULFA) can become their members, and there are 100s of muslims in the ranks of naxals and ULFA. <br /><br />And who are the masterminds behind such groups? ISI and Pakistan..err..last time I read about ISI and Pakistan, they have got a particular religion as the religion of the state and they say they are working for the cause of that religion.<br /><br />And yes naxals and ULFA dont use a religion as their reason-d-itre for killing people like the jihadi groups for whom you seem to have so much of love for.<br /><br />And even if for a moment we consider the fact that naxals and ULFA arent being given any prominence in the news, does that mean what the jihadis are doing is right? Why cant you simply say any one who tries to harm people is anti social and hence a terrorist.Why this lame excuse in the defence of the jihadis?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-58909186734548705132009-04-26T07:28:00.000+05:302009-04-26T07:28:00.000+05:30Well written article.
All the crimes you mention...Well written article. <br /><br />All the crimes you mentioned are atrocious but no one claimed God as the reason for it. Hence no religion attached to them.<br /><br />The reason given by Muslims for any attack is God and the book. There is not deying that. This attracts lot of crowds and debates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-76253775932136062872009-04-26T03:11:00.000+05:302009-04-26T03:11:00.000+05:30very great post. Two of my very best friends are M...very great post. Two of my very best friends are Muslims from India. They are the kindest, most generous and wonderful people. They are a blessing to my family and the entire community. Muslim does not equal terrorist and terrorist does not equal Muslim. They are defined in and of themselves and shouldn't be described as one in the same.Aliciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13505403758580459943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-87534936007075953002009-04-25T23:48:00.000+05:302009-04-25T23:48:00.000+05:30Salaam -
Great post again! Very factual, which is ...Salaam -<br />Great post again! Very factual, which is what makes this post irrefutable. Linked it through twitter - http://twitter.com/daneshzaki/status/1614403789Daneshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07801817103097495240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-83019827763164164012009-04-25T21:18:00.000+05:302009-04-25T21:18:00.000+05:30Assalam
that is so very true...
its sad how its on...Assalam<br />that is so very true...<br />its sad how its only Muslim terrorists who are terrorists and all other are 'rebels'.<br />but, i don know wat exactly dyu mean by saying that the Muslims shud protest better and all that!!!<br />you seriously think anything's gonna change that way???<br />you mentioned the TRP na??? thats the thing... we r seasonal culprits... in this age , this season.. Muslims are the villains... now, why wud the media not cash upon it.. maybe a hundred yrs later sumthin else wud pop up... us waqt media wud screw them....<br /><br />watever...<br />i think better wud be to strengthen the community from within... Indian Muslims are not in that grt a state as compard to oders... we rather build ourselves into a strong ppl so that ppl start HEARING us and not just booing us down coz we r the same school-dropouts'-community-members who shout at any little thing... <br /><br />its sad the way things are... it hurts and it really hurts bad... but i wonder wat can be done???<br /><br />we r living in a world where EVERY muslim is bein lukd upon as a terorist.... dyu think any word spoken by US THE TERRORISTS wud matter????<br /><br />Many still believe that the Muslim terrorists get support from us all... from you .. from me... dyu think these ppl wud give a damn to what the same 'you' and the same 'me' wud say... <br />dyu think they'll start callin the naxals, tigers and all 'terrorists' coz WE- THE TERRORISTS find it unjust...????Almas Kiran Shamimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15490672837424765800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-74052900877258528972009-04-25T17:34:00.000+05:302009-04-25T17:34:00.000+05:30very well said .....may be its true that educated ...very well said .....may be its true that educated muslims are also responsible for the mess in which muslims find themselves in. We only thought of ours and forget the very important task of community building of ours. Its high time that we educated muslims like us take the matter on head and speard the true message of islam and try to clear the smoke arounf our community. The other alternative to this is only taking us to pit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-13068659420099362442009-04-25T14:39:00.000+05:302009-04-25T14:39:00.000+05:30They r all terrorists whether Naxals,LET or ULFA o...They r all terrorists whether Naxals,LET or ULFA or any damn organisation,but just like Sadhvi Pragya & others involved in Malegaon are called Hindu terrorists those doing the same in the name of Islam are called Islamic terrorists.Maoists r not using any religion as LTTE is also not using any religion.LTTE & Maoists & Naxals have people from all religions,but yes they should also be called terrorists not just rebels.Sandeep Monganoreply@blogger.com