tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post5838516746831561567..comments2023-12-25T18:31:06.166+05:30Comments on Indian Muslim Blog: News And Views about Indian Muslims: Indian Muslims and Patriotism: Cheering for Cricket teamsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-82035748424680483872016-02-08T20:55:24.047+05:302016-02-08T20:55:24.047+05:30Look at what happens when muslims are in the major...Look at what happens when muslims are in the majority. How do Pakistanis treat Hindus and Sikhs? Where is the Hindu/Sikh Shah Rukh Khan in Pakistan? There are hardly any minorities in Pakistan compared to India. Hindu girls have been kidnapped and forced to become muslim. The problem is that some muslims want the whole world to become muslim and are obsessed with that thought. It is far better to be a minority in India compared to Pakistan.Ronnienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-12620884151691808002014-05-31T10:39:16.303+05:302014-05-31T10:39:16.303+05:30I in no means am doubting your patriotism sir. I a...I in no means am doubting your patriotism sir. I actually agree that you are more patriotic then many other Indians out there. But the fact remains is that mob of muslims celebrate pakistani victory. That really disheartens us. Everytime we try to include Muslims as our brothers abroad, next thing we see muslims celebrating pakistani victory. Seeing this for 67 years even after independence pains us more then you can imagine. It feels like betrayal and back stabbing and you have no idea how much it hurts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-46913547630866731942013-10-27T03:15:01.294+05:302013-10-27T03:15:01.294+05:30Rajesh ji, I explained my views. Regarding your ex...Rajesh ji, I explained my views. Regarding your expectations about what I should do, I not only talk about that [read other posts also], I do a lot in practice a lot. editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17073543434209800940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-88206380006752159972013-10-27T03:14:55.468+05:302013-10-27T03:14:55.468+05:30Rajesh ji, I explained my views. Regarding your ex...Rajesh ji, I explained my views. Regarding your expectations about what I should do, I not only talk about that [read other posts also], I do a lot in practice a lot. editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17073543434209800940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-64265839121919871262013-10-27T00:13:26.897+05:302013-10-27T00:13:26.897+05:30Why do you muslims always point fingers at others ...Why do you muslims always point fingers at others rather than looking at yourselves? You may have been a patriotic Indian, but if even 10% of your community is supporting pakistan, it will stick out like a sore thumb and will make anyone view the community with suspicion. And why do you think people associate paki loyalty only with muslims? Does anyone ever suspect any Sikh or Parsi or Jain or Buddhist of thinking on those lines? The right question would be what is the muslim community doing wrong which the other minority communities are doing right. Plus what you say applying to muslims in India probably applies to any non muslim in pakistan or bangladesh or any other muslim country in the world. You think a hindu or a sikh or christian in pakistan or bangladesh is treated any better than the muslims in India? For all you know, the amount of suspicion they have to undergo is a million times more than what you have to undergo. So why don't you show some sympathy for them rather than just whining about what you are facing? Why don't you have the guts to tell pakistan and bangladesh that your suffering is because of the way they are treating the non muslims there?redrajeshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03037713065029157644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-70737609857366846252013-08-26T08:01:20.862+05:302013-08-26T08:01:20.862+05:30Dont pay attention to the trolls ! Liberty, Equali...Dont pay attention to the trolls ! Liberty, Equality, Justice and Fraternity are the preamble of our Constitution. And none of us Indians should rest till each one of our countrymen has all four. Ekla Chalo Re !Vikramhttp://vikramvgarg.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-72734327274290392572013-04-04T01:36:18.181+05:302013-04-04T01:36:18.181+05:30Hi Indian Muslim,
I am an Indian Hindu. I perfect...Hi Indian Muslim,<br /><br />I am an Indian Hindu. I perfectly understand your feelings. There are trolls all over the world, it is ignorance which makes them behave this way. Whether you're a Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Sikh or any other religion first we are all human beings and as a human being first we must learn to be compassionate and understand the feelings of other human beings and try not to hurt it. If you don't have this attribute in you, you're not qualified to follow any religion. GOD (Allah, Krishna, Father of Jesus or whoever) will not consider you or your prayers. <br />Keep up your good work and continue to write and do what you've been doing. Follow your heart, which is the path to God.<br />Your Hindu Friend. Cheers!Wisdumbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09874931747656562759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-88204585370212222362012-11-08T19:00:45.142+05:302012-11-08T19:00:45.142+05:30Well written post. Unfortunately as far as my expe...Well written post. Unfortunately as far as my experience goes you constitute a minority when it comes to Muslims supporting India. Anyway, IMO supporting Pakistan or Australia makes you anti-India -I find this argument silly. As for calling you "Pakistani" - serious mistake, but you can understand when a country is partitioned into a Muslim State and a (predominantly) Hindu State, questions about allegiance will continue to be raised. Just like Hindus in Bangladesh are considered Indian fifth columnists :( Sarthak Gangulyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10862926025998551199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-45921354865834982312011-04-13T19:36:17.659+05:302011-04-13T19:36:17.659+05:30Hello Brother,
Being an Hindu and member of RSS I...Hello Brother,<br /><br />Being an Hindu and member of RSS I am sorry for what ever ill treatment you have received. But defiantly RSS never teach us to hate Muslims. Ashfaqulla Khan is hero for all RSS member just like Bhagat Singh and many other freedom fighter. We believe in national unity irrespective of cast and religion. <br /><br />Good luck .. Vande Mataram<br /><br />GouthamaGouthamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07819699178273699175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-62642343791829763352010-10-08T09:26:49.019+05:302010-10-08T09:26:49.019+05:30Randeep,
A question for you. Muslim woman is not a...Randeep,<br />A question for you. Muslim woman is not allowed to merry a non-Muslim man. How did your merry you? I am sure she left her family to merry a Sikh or you converted to Islam. There is no other way. If you did not become Muslim then your wife is committing "Zana" which is greatest sin in Islam. If you really love her then I am sure you will get her out of that painful misery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-75549035560194781802010-10-08T09:21:34.077+05:302010-10-08T09:21:34.077+05:30W When will Indian realized that Pakistan is a rea...W When will Indian realized that Pakistan is a reality and we are here to stay. And Pakistan is doing million time better than your media shows you. I remember one of the news in Indian paper in 2001, that said Pakistan will end by 2007. Keep drinking your cool aid. <br /><br />Following lines were said by one of the Pakistani. I love it.<br />"<br />Lastly, I don't mean to be offensive but why do most people even after 61 years still want to question as to why Pakistan exists. Pakistan is a reality and yes it does have problems but that doesn't give anyone the right to question it's existence. "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-78044084488052463462010-08-31T20:20:51.380+05:302010-08-31T20:20:51.380+05:30Very Good that you spit it out.. As a Hindhu I fee...Very Good that you spit it out.. As a Hindhu I feel ashamed for treating fellow Indian based on religion. No one has either given nor empowered to certify some one as Patriotic or traitor.<br /><br />We should not lose hope.. Our neighbors (pak and Srilanka) are the classical examples for their bad standard of living due to their internal war. We should not lose our hard earned freedom in the name of Religious differences. <br /><br />I like your post very much.கானகம்https://www.blogger.com/profile/14823601851277004562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-31032061580266057042010-04-18T22:57:22.562+05:302010-04-18T22:57:22.562+05:30Any one who calls an INDIAN muslim a paki should r...Any one who calls an INDIAN muslim a paki should remember Dr A P J Abdul kalaam(Missile man of INDIA) and his contribution to the defence of this great nation.Kiran sainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-6014058209745505492010-03-18T02:36:54.743+05:302010-03-18T02:36:54.743+05:30@ Anonymous
U r positively nuts n proving yoursel...@ Anonymous <br />U r positively nuts n proving yourself to be a true representative of paranoidistan. You live in a vibrant democracy lik the US. Do you think in a democracy you can downplay a 20% to be 13%!!!<br />Please keep your opinions to yourself and urgntly seek help. You are suffering from acute paranoia.chhayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06553613566418836984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-63673726446206570522010-02-14T09:19:22.333+05:302010-02-14T09:19:22.333+05:30I am a Pakistan-born American who is saddened by t...I am a Pakistan-born American who is saddened by the status of Indian Muslims in the Indian Society. My passion and love for the Indian Muslims is due to the fact that both my parents were from Delhi, India ( Delhi is our ancestral home as we are a Mughal Family ). From what I have read, Indian Muslims now are the poorest and least educated segment of Indian Society as they have fallen behind the Dalits ( Source: Rajinder Sachar Commission Report submited to PM Manmohan Singh ).<br /><br />Officially, Indian Muslims are 13.4% of Indian Muslims. However most experts believe that Indian Muslims are closer to 20% of Indian Population, but the Indian Government misrepresents this fact for political reasons and to marginalize Indian Muslims.<br /><br />Today 60% of Indian Muslims have fallen below the poverty line. Indian Muslims literacy rate has fallen below 50%. Although 20% of Indian population, yet less than 1.5% of college graduates are Muslims. Muslims have less than 4% of Government jobs. Less than 2% loans are given to Indian Muslims.<br /><br />I think the myth of Indian Secularism ( which never existed in reality ) is long been dead. Hindu terror organizations like RSS promoting Hidutva philosophy have openly declared war on Muslim and Christian minorities with ultimate goal of converting them to hinduism by force. The Senas of Maharashtra thugs have made life of Muslims unbearable. <br /><br />Yet, Indians demand loyalty of these poor oppressed minorities at gunpoint. It is unfathomable to read Indian Blogs that attempt to defend Indian Society despite these realities.<br /><br />Indians claim to be World's largest Democracty, but I believe India is World's largest Hypocrisy.<br /><br />God Bless us all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-66186136276146257092009-11-11T07:14:25.382+05:302009-11-11T07:14:25.382+05:30i am a tamilian..i saw in ur blog about the indian...i am a tamilian..i saw in ur blog about the indian army incidence...this what myself and my friends(tamilians) used to talk what ever my country do...i support it....even wrong i dont care ...i will take others life or give my life for the welfare of my country india....wat indian army did in srilanka is their problem....not mine ....i dont care wheather im being selfish here but i support my india...in this....issue..and about indian muslims...i love abdul kalam..i see no religion..for me the only religion in india is indianism...those who belive in it are citizens of republic of india...those who dont belive are terrorist....jai hind....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-32689442208444695962009-06-08T22:13:51.585+05:302009-06-08T22:13:51.585+05:30A very beautiful post. Reading the post and the co...A very beautiful post. Reading the post and the comments was very educative and I do pray, hope and wish that you never do stop blogging. We need people like you in the blog world....... so don't deny us this, please.<br /><br />I served in the armed forces and I can say with certainty that religion was never mentioned there.. it was always the calibre and the commitment that was seen. One of our finest chief was Air Chief Marshal Latif and my favourite president, like with so many other Indians, would undoubtedly be President Kalam. <br /><br />Every citizen of India has equal rights and responsibilities and these are guaranteed by our visionary constitution and are enforced by our courts and no body is above the law of the land. We have a small minority of people, from every religion, who are intolerant but that should not detract us from the larger macro picture of tolerant India and its largely peace loving diversity. <br /><br />Try imagining this diversity in any other part of the world and you would understand what I mean.<br /><br />Please keep blogging.J P Joshihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08806649492059145583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-69547734146759313372009-06-03T12:55:33.578+05:302009-06-03T12:55:33.578+05:30I feel really bad our Muslim population is treated...I feel really bad our Muslim population is treated as non indians when ever terror strucks some part of country<br /><br /><br />Indian Muslims are Indians by virtue and by birth<br /><br />some idiots do all the funky things in all religions they are part and parcel of all religions not just in islam<br /><br /><br />they day we start believing our neighbors regardless of their religion are indians regardless of the crisis faced by India by any idiot .<br /><br />my fav bowler 'akram' , my fav batsmen 'sahin' doe it make any less indian. all bull shit.சின்னுhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06502976433121555317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-84588257175951423172009-06-03T00:42:05.011+05:302009-06-03T00:42:05.011+05:30@ Krishna
Sir Allama Iqbal was born when the Briti...@ Krishna<br />Sir Allama Iqbal was born when the British had taken over India. At that time as well Hindu-Muslim clash took place like a famous incidence when Hindu wanted a hindu temple to be built on a land and Muslims wanted a mosque to be built on the very same land. Like I said earlier Quaid-e-Azam left India and went to UK because there was no peace occurring between Hindus and Muslims. <br /><br />Regarding Pakistani Muslims being corrupt with other religions that is not Sir Allama Iqbal's fault that they don't follow Islam as it should it be, it is there own fault. Like Gandhi wished for everyone to have a house and be educated in India, if that didn't happen it is not Gandhi's fault. So I don't want to go into a debate as to what Pakistani Muslims or any other Muslims beliefs are. <br /><br />'No' country in the world follows Sharia law completely. Even the so-called Islamic banks are not Islamic. Coming to Jaziyah according to Islam it is not basically religion based but it was enforced as to have equality among everyone belonging to the same land. Everyone had to put there share in the development of the land. Both non-Muslims and Muslims were required to pay tax in Islamic countries. The Muslim tax was called “Zakat”, which was much more broad. Non-Muslims did NOT have to pay any zakat on any of their property, livestock, produce or crops while Muslims –did-. Zakat also varied depending on the Muslim’s situation, depending on the size of property, number of live stock, amount of savings, on average, the Muslim paid more taxes than the non-Muslim. Besides an average of Muslims paying more taxes, Muslims also had to pay with their lives, they had to join the army and defend the country, whereas non-Muslims in the country were not required to enlist, again displaying the price for the Muslims was higher than for the non-Muslims. In fact if at times non-Muslims took part in battle they were exempt from paying Jaziya but the Muslim still had to pay Zakat (Muslim Tax). Non-Muslims weren't exempt from joining the army because of trust issue but because at times Muslims were fighting people of the same religion as the non-Muslims residing in the land and they might not feel comfortable fighting them, this was a reason as well. Both Muslims and non-Muslims alike faced force if the tax was not paid. I have written this to let you know what Islam has stated about Zakat/Jaziya if some ruler has done injustice, be it with Non-Muslims as well he will have to be answerable to God for his actions. <br /><br />Lastly, I don't mean to be offensive but why do most people even after 61 years still want to question as to why Pakistan exists. Pakistan is a reality and yes it does have problems but that doesn't give anyone the right to question it's existence. I know Pakistan and India can never be the best of friends, there will be finger pointing at one time or another but at least we can try to be good distant neighbours because no common man in both the countries want war as they are the ones who will die while the war mongers will be sitting safely inside there respective houses.<br /><br />God bless us all. <br />Regards.Irimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02634847888747197509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-11419980728596728752009-06-01T23:03:54.264+05:302009-06-01T23:03:54.264+05:30I am writting these few lines to 'indescribe'.I ha...I am writting these few lines to 'indescribe'.I have recently read your article 'Indian Muslims and Patriotism" and I must say that you have developed 'a little' misunderstanding about hindus.You do not need to give a proof to be patriotic towards India.Whether you are a muslim or a tamil or a punjabi,it does not matter as much as the fact that you first are an Indian.Young Indians are not mad enough to discriminate muslims and they never will be questioned or doubted.And of course there will be a few incidents you might come across but they will be by people who are either orthodox else uneducated.Your views about this matter must be because of your surroundings.As for Varun Gandhi's speech,not only muslims but hindus were also hurt and absolutely angry by his remarks.And the whole India knows that he was a fool and an idoit to say so.Please don't think that indians will always be doubting your loyalty towards India.You will agree with me when I say that It really does not matter which religion you are of, as it does not change the fact that a human will always remain human no matter which religion he/she follows.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-78677241854752185192009-05-28T09:02:09.727+05:302009-05-28T09:02:09.727+05:30Hello Randeep and MIMI,
First of all let me say ...Hello Randeep and MIMI,<br /><br /> First of all let me say that Indian muslims of today are as patriotic as any other community. I wouldn't really waste much time on such silly stuff. Also I am no warmongerer and don't want wastage of resources on wars with pakistan.<br />Now Just Thinking loudly.<br />Are Jelabis, Tajmahal(At the expense of people's tax money), Urdu(Which was imposed on telugu and kannada speaking people at the expense of local languages) worth all the fights and resultant deaths(including the million deaths for pakistan, which has failed to justify those deaths todate) imposed by the foreign (Afghan, Iranian)rulers ? NOT FOR ME. I can't really appreciate them as joyfully as Randeep can. Are those southern parts of India that didn't come under muslim rule and so influence of so called syncretic culture any less Indian?<br /><br />MIMI,<br /><br />With who was Mr.Iqbal living before he got grand idea of separate muslim land ? wasn't he living with Hindus? What exactly was the problem? No prob living with hindus under muslim rule and under british rule too. By the way I know few Indian and pakistani muslims, I didn't find Pakistani muslims to be any more Islamic (or less corrupted by other religions)than indian ones.<br />Coming to Hindus in Pakistan, most of my pakistani freinds in USA give a different picture. Please read textbooks(what they say about religions, history) in Pakistan and India, you will know. <br />Coming to Jiziyah, what % needs to be paid, Is it 2.5? If you read the various namas written by medieval rulers and their men, you will know it was most of the times 2 times more. Don't state exclusion of non-muslims from army jobs due to mistrust as a positive point or some sort of sacrifice .Krishnanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-79307255580084147592009-05-25T06:23:45.877+05:302009-05-25T06:23:45.877+05:30I liked your all posts. Please keep writing. We re...I liked your all posts. Please keep writing. We really need people like you to fill the gap. I feel education is the most important thing for people belonging to all religion. The greatest religion is humanity, all should understand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-41424915168028919392009-05-21T22:49:21.281+05:302009-05-21T22:49:21.281+05:30@ Randeep
The manner in which you gave your point...@ Randeep<br /><br />The manner in which you gave your point of view, you definitely have earned my respect. <br /><br />As long as with keep pointing fingers and disrespecting people of different religions or caste we'll end up nowhere. <br /><br />Baba Guru Nanak or Prophet Muhammad P.b.u.h are respected by masses mainly because of there message of love and tolerance, if they were preaching hatred they wouldn't be having a single followers. <br /><br />Healthy discussions/debates are always appreciated. <br /><br />Regards =)<br /><br />P.S: I'm a punjabi as well from Sialkot, Gujranwala is near Sialkot!Irimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02634847888747197509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-21630110530304639272009-05-21T18:27:38.033+05:302009-05-21T18:27:38.033+05:30Sir,
I am a regular visitor of your blog. I might ...Sir,<br />I am a regular visitor of your blog. I might not have commented regularly but I do keep track of your writings.<br />I find your blog very interesting and of more interest to me is your thoughts regarding this whole Indian Muslim identity issue and the haunting Pakistan factor in their lives. I have a dear friend who happens to be an Indian Muslim as well and it was through her that I began to understand these issues.<br />I understand how sometimes negative comments and negative attitude in general can get the better of us. I also understand how it might make us feel that our work is pointless, and discourage us, but even if it manages to gladden one heart, we should do it.<br />Please do not stop blogging. Even if it manages connect with one Hindu who used to hate Muslim, and one Indian Muslim who used to cheer for Pakistan..you have accomplished a lot.<br />I leave you with these words of the great poet Rabindranath Tagore<br />"Jodi Tor Daak Shone Keo Naa Ashe, Tobe Ekla Cholo Re"<br />"If no one responds to your call, you set off on your path by yourself nevertheless"Faraaz Rahmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01479080051354402267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-32778920989193039622009-05-21T13:29:11.172+05:302009-05-21T13:29:11.172+05:30Mimi,
1. I have had another look at the earlier c...Mimi,<br /><br />1. I have had another look at the earlier comments that I posted on this blog. I am afraid some of my comments especially about Mohammed Ali Jinnah may have come across as a little disrespectful. I assure you that was and is NOT my intention. In any case I apologise if I caused any hurt.<br /><br />2. The reason I responded to your comments in the first place was because you had responded with diginity to some anti Muslim hate comments made by an earlier correspondent.<br /><br />3. Let us all consider Babba Farid's words (which were included in the Guru Granth Sahib).<br /><br />"Jo toi maran mukia - tinHaa na maarey ghum<br />aapnarry ghar jaa-ee-ai pair tinHaa day chumm."<br /><br />In English :<br />Farid, do not turn around and strike those who strike you with their fists.<br />Kiss their feet, and return to your own home.<br /><br />4. As for Indians having Pakistani friends and vice versa. That is the reality of most people not living in India or Pakistani. That is also the best hope for peace. Contact between the people.<br />The earliest and best friend I have ever had is Mohammed Javed. As six year old boys we were the only Panjabi's in a class of forty Gujeratis in a small town in Kenya.<br /><br />Now the irony is that his family is originally from Jalander and mine from Gujeranwalla. So the question was who was the Pakistani and who the Indian. He has been back to his ancestral village near Jallander where he was shown records of his family's lands and homes, preserved - written on cloth, and safely kept in the village Gurudwara. The old Sikhs of the village (friends of his grandfather) said that at partitiion they had hoped that their Muslim friends and neighbours would one day return.<br /><br />5. As for the beauty and sublimity of Islam. My wife has shown it to me in Sufi grace, ideology, music and poetry. The Sikhs share a lot of this - especially in our devotional music and poetry - Shabad. <br /><br />RandeepUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15018129733568395911noreply@blogger.com