tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post8623689775794231021..comments2023-12-25T18:31:06.166+05:30Comments on Indian Muslim Blog: News And Views about Indian Muslims: No house for Muslims: Controversy over Shabana Azmi's statementUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-50228562592831953642010-09-22T16:35:10.049+05:302010-09-22T16:35:10.049+05:30It is true. Difficulty for Muslims to get a house ...It is true. Difficulty for Muslims to get a house on rent in Delhi and North India is very clear and present. Rightly said how many can afford expensive rents ? <br /><br />This has been compounded by motha-fuc**ng terrorist who again happen to be muslim. Now even a muslim landlord is afraid to give his flat on rent to a muslim. <br /><br />Real SAD. The mullahs in mosques should preach for better brotherhood and against terrorists.One day I heard the mulla talking about iraq incidents. Assho*es... what about Indian muslims?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-39896895312579236842010-09-21T12:19:46.094+05:302010-09-21T12:19:46.094+05:30This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-9720988780742799102009-08-27T16:30:33.279+05:302009-08-27T16:30:33.279+05:30Hello there
Got to your blog searching for Ghalib...Hello there<br /><br />Got to your blog searching for Ghalib and found some interesting and thought provoking articles and comments.<br /><br />Am a Hindu however my opinions (as would anyone else's) are formed through my experiences.<br /><br />I have always been secular and have admired sportsmen, actors irrespective of their religion (Aamir Khan, Azhar - before he started betting!, etc.).<br /><br />Well, in 2003, we rented our flat to a muslim gentleman (senior citizen, ex-bureaucrat etc.) and what happened afterwards caused havoc in our lives. The gentleman refused to vacate when we wanted to shift ourselves. We tried to cajole him into agreeing to our request but he wouldn't budge. We ultimately fought a civil case for 2 years which cost him and us, a lot of anguish, money and peace of mind. We finally won although the gentleman had claimed ownership of the property in his response to our court notice! We learnt later that he used to have a couple of goats tied in the front lawn, to be used as meat, all this in in the middle of a posh colony!<br /><br />Sigh!<br /><br />Am not saying I have become anti-muslim because of all this however one does feel a sense of angst at such behavior (and believe me, you have to go through what we went though!) and inevitably one's opinion does get coloured no matter how strong your streak of secularism is...<br /><br />This is my 2 cents worth...<br /><br />I do wish someday Hindus & Muslims, Dalits & Upper classes, Biharis & UPites, will all live together happily. I suspect it won't be in my lifetime though and I also feel that the only way this will happen is when we have a semblance of economic equality across the board!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-91054550654315458032009-08-01T05:30:45.999+05:302009-08-01T05:30:45.999+05:30ok - here we go again!!! If nobody tells my name, ...ok - here we go again!!! If nobody tells my name, I can easily go a Hindu or a Muslim, because I am an Indian by heart ... I am proud of it. Even my wife says I am half Hindu due to my lifestyle and close friendship with them. I am, once again, saying the same thing. Please don't blame either side. Both are at faults, and both are right!!! Look around us and be united. This is our time to stand together and succeed, not do infighting and complaining and finger pointing. There are so many great Hindus who feel that Muslims should have the rights and respect. I am, for one, very much in favor of supporting Hindus who are absolutely great people and millions of them have open mind and compassion...ProLogicPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12960549013122275966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-79559407708570254602008-10-05T20:14:00.000+05:302008-10-05T20:14:00.000+05:30K bhai,That's equally bad, this has also to be con...K bhai,<BR/>That's equally bad, this has also to be condemned it. Minority and Majority both staying in their areas, is unhealthy trend for our society.editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17073543434209800940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-66515278194484415042008-10-05T18:51:00.000+05:302008-10-05T18:51:00.000+05:30Try(if your a Hindu) buying a house in a Muslim lo...Try(if your a Hindu) buying a house in a Muslim locality like Ahemedabad Palace in Bhopal. It's very easy to accuse others but very difficult to see if one is indulging in the same thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-60173088596952216362008-08-31T20:59:00.000+05:302008-08-31T20:59:00.000+05:30!!!Please don't confuse issues. In case of Azhar, ...!!!<BR/>Please don't confuse issues. In case of Azhar, it was wrong on his part, and many people condemned that. And that is reason for his fall from grace.<BR/><BR/>Even at this blog, I have written how he didn't try to gain respect and opens a gym rather than do some welfare activities. <BR/><BR/>But this is a genuine issue. I think all of us should feel concerned.editorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17073543434209800940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-36661059991957194112008-08-31T20:45:00.000+05:302008-08-31T20:45:00.000+05:30Well... Anyone can only laugh if you see crorepati...Well... Anyone can only laugh if you see crorepati's like Shabana, Javed Akhtar playing the victim... victimhood because of her religion.<BR/><BR/>Why is it that they didnt think that the Indian majority was a biased communal rouge so far - when they were minting their millions living in the hearts of these very masses...<BR/><BR/>This drama of victimhood is not new... Azharuddin played the minority card when he was charged with match-fixing. No one else in that scam - Ajay Jadeja, Prabhakar or even Kapil thought they had a religion as well... but Azhar promptly thought he was caught because he was Muslim. Wonder why he never felt that he was favored to the post of captaincy because he was a Muslim...<BR/><BR/>Wouldnt be surprised if some day Salman Khan accusses the masses of India of communal bias because he is charged with murder of pavement dwellers because of his drunken driving. Of course, none of the Khans felt that the Hindu majority of India was communally appeasing them - when the Shahrukh/Aamir/Salmans of bollywood rule the BO.<BR/>...A Soul In Exilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05229148762579254714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-28788471267095122522008-08-29T01:30:00.000+05:302008-08-29T01:30:00.000+05:30i wonder if there is any law at all under which PI...i wonder if there is any law at all under which PILs can be filed against societies making religion, caste, sexual preference etc as the basis for denying someone a house. it will be bloody tough to prove the case against the guilty but atleast it will go some way in that they'll know that what they're doing is plain illegal. That is also one way to create awareness. Society like ours will take a long time to spread proper education to all, so there's got to be a stick approach to handle this meanwhile.Vinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04360578692908757624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-45211292240864252432008-08-28T20:38:00.000+05:302008-08-28T20:38:00.000+05:30This is not a new development , it has been in for...This is not a new development , it has been in force for the last sevral decdes in all parts of India.<BR/>Different persons have different reasons for it. Muslims have been respecting their sentiments and slip out without any ill feeling.<BR/>Hence,this need not be<BR/>"sensationalized"!<BR/> What every thinking Indian has to seriously contemplate is the<BR/>"mischief" of divisive forces<BR/>out to communalize issues as in Jammu and Orissa, for garnering votes in the elections round the corner. <BR/> When all parties fight the elections with manifestos and programmes, one depends on creating "emotive issues" and drag the name of the community to suit their purpose.<BR/> Luckily many have spotted them and shown them their place.<BR/><BR/> unnecessarily.Nyaymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13185862131359129898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-81269750783830603442008-08-27T18:54:00.000+05:302008-08-27T18:54:00.000+05:30If there is a bias, we need to honest and face up ...If there is a bias, we need to honest and face up to it. The fact that we live in a free market does not mean that landlords can discriminate while choosing their tenants. There are laws against this in our Constitution and in our penal code (similar to the Fair Housing Act in the US)and they need to be enforced. There is no excuse for singling people out - if you suspect that your would be tenant is a criminal - do a police verification.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-73739902513313842202008-08-26T15:41:00.000+05:302008-08-26T15:41:00.000+05:30@abhijitAgreed with you. Btw for any Muslim being ...@abhijit<BR/>Agreed with you. Btw for any Muslim being this is actually his/her first practical lesson. Our beloved prophet(saw) informed us in many of his sayings as well as thru his behaviour. Even he(saw) shows so much so sympathy towards one's neighbor that cannot be explain. He(saw) did'nt differentiate the neighbor as a muslim/non-muslim.<BR/>But alas... parents do forget to teach (moral/islamic values) their children & so the children runs towards the materialized life.<BR/><BR/>the point:<BR/>It is not the time to get just the meanings of "words" from the west... we have to renovate the old moral values & practically follows so as to make an example for the next generation.Syed Hyderabadihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03933308297011650354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-66776602055681314732008-08-26T12:16:00.000+05:302008-08-26T12:16:00.000+05:30@hyderabadiWikipedia describes education as: encom...@hyderabadi<BR/><A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki" REL="nofollow">Wikipedia</A> describes <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki" REL="nofollow">education</A> as: encompassing both the teaching and learning of knowledge, proper conduct, and technical competency. Unfortunately, in our education system, emphasis is placed solely on technical competency and vocational training; sure, we can solve partial differential equations, program in C++, (or Autocad :)) etc... have well paid jobs and can afford iPhones, but when it comes to civic responsibility, rational behavior and many of us have our basics wrong. <BR/>This lack of 'education' causes to move from mixed neighborhood, deny jobs and housing, start believing in hate messages and attack <A>orphanages</A> and commit acts of <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/12/business/worldbusiness/12rupee.html" REL="nofollow">terror</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-70000185158625870472008-08-26T02:04:00.000+05:302008-08-26T02:04:00.000+05:30anyways there is a trend emerging...u dnt get thin...anyways there is a trend emerging...u dnt get things done your way...blame it to the bias against ur caste/religion...<BR/>Azharuddin gets dropped/caught in match fixing scandal and says - he is being crucified because he is from a minority committee.<BR/>Mayawati doent get enough support to snatch the PM seatch and says - other parties just cnt let a dalit lady become a PM<BR/>few students in IITD get in thru quota, get sacked because they dnt meet the minimum qualifying criteria and complain - they have been victimized as they belong ot reserve category<BR/>Shabana Azmi cant buy a house of her choice, could be any reason - and joins the list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-80613543789174304602008-08-26T01:45:00.000+05:302008-08-26T01:45:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Vibhash Prakash Awasthihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10560503953678264848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-63998485380123509752008-08-25T21:22:00.000+05:302008-08-25T21:22:00.000+05:30Non-muslims are to be taxed according to quran, is...Non-muslims are to be taxed according to quran, isn't it? I think it is called dhimmi or something.<BR/><BR/>The muslims don't give land in Ayodhya or Varanasi or Amarnath, why would Hindus?<BR/><BR/>As you sow, so you reap.<BR/><BR/>Muslims play both the vitims and the aggressors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-49359689627964666892008-08-25T18:40:00.000+05:302008-08-25T18:40:00.000+05:30Agreed with abhijit on some points.but the last po...Agreed with <B>abhijit</B> on some points.<BR/>but the last point(7) needs some clarification. Whats this education stands for?<BR/>My personal experience: In the "hyderabadi mohella" where I lived from my birth, there was 25% hindus & the rest muslims. from 90's the less % going to be more lesser. Now it's almost 0%. <BR/>Atleast 60% of the youngsters (between age 18-40) are in Europe/Australia/NZ/USA/Mid.East nowadays. I mean to say the young muslim generation is fast forwarding towards education & the high-fi materialised life. But still the question remains: as why our "mohella" has the zero percent hindus living in??<BR/>I dont know the answer exactly, as I am also living in the gulf for past several years.Syed Hyderabadihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03933308297011650354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-2093765613363161882008-08-25T07:01:00.000+05:302008-08-25T07:01:00.000+05:30Lets eyeball this a little more:(1)Is this situati...Lets eyeball this a little more:<BR/>(1)Is this situation new? <BR/>I would say NO. People of different faiths, in this country, have (chosen to) remain in homogeneous areas since the beginning. The so called 'ghettos' of Hyderabad and Lucknow are over 500years old. Also, if you go to Jain, marwari majority areas, it is impossible for person of <I>any</I> religion to get a house lest you can prove, and that too only by virtue of your ancestry, that you disavow all non-vegetarian products. <BR/>(2)Is this (mentioned above) really so bad? <BR/>well.. depends on how you look at it. This is a free country and people have the right to live in a community they choose, after all there are limits to everything including 'religious tolerance' - to avoid stereotyping I won't list any here, but lets just say there are things that (some) people of every religion (Hindu, Muslim, Christian .... ) find in other religions that makes (some of) 'us' a wee bit uncomfortable, and we have a right to avoid it, if we can. <BR/>The point where it gets alarming is when all other conditions being equal (dietary, sanitary, habilimentary etc), people start denying, in this case, housing rights (well.. its still privilege in our country) based solely on the religion; Which brings be to the next question.<BR/>(3) Has the situation been exacerbated in recent times? <BR/>Of course. <BR/>(4) And why?<BR/>I have highlighted <A HREF="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=14053277&postID=5785224960279802999" REL="nofollow">some of the reasons</A> for antipathy directed specifically towards Muslims in India. I feel that the housing situation mentioned in the post is primarily a direct consequence of mistrust and suspicion [1,4 in my post]. What an average Indian (not necessarily Hindu) fears next to death is getting wrapped up in the soul-killing time-warp that is our judicial system and would rather avoid it. While this is baseless generalization, its human psyche. <BR/>Educated, upwardly mobile Muslims are generally not viewed with suspicion (yet), but let there be a few 'incidents' in upscale housings and there wont be any 25K housing available either. <BR/>Then there is some hate, but that, in my opinion and supported by facts above, are not the primary reason but it is also <B>mutual</B>. <BR/>(6) is this something we should worry about? Should this be active fixed?<BR/>I dare anyone to say no.<BR/>(7) How can we fix this? <BR/>3 things come to mind - education, education, education. Any other ideas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-66655792322837246002008-08-25T04:16:00.000+05:302008-08-25T04:16:00.000+05:30انڈسکرائب بھائی ! ہمارے لئے تو یہ حیرت کی خبر ہے۔ ...انڈسکرائب بھائی ! ہمارے لئے تو یہ حیرت کی خبر ہے۔ ویسے آپ نے پہلے ہی جنوبی ہند کے چار شہروں کو مستثنیٰ قرار دیا ہے۔ یقیناً اس میں حیدرآباد اور بنگلور شامل ہیں۔ ہمیں علم نہیں تھا کہ جنوبی ہند کو چھوڑ کر پورے ہندوستان میں اس قدر سنگین صورتحال ہے۔<BR/>ویسے یہ بھی ایک کڑوی حقیقت ہے کہ کچھ سالوں سے محلے مذہب کی بنیاد پر قائم ہوتے چلے جا رہے ہیں۔ افسوس کہ حیدرآباد بھی اس صورتحال سے مستثنٰی نہیں ہے۔Syed Hyderabadihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03933308297011650354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14053277.post-43863449355105283122008-08-25T03:05:00.000+05:302008-08-25T03:05:00.000+05:30not sure which glorious composite culture you are ...not sure which glorious composite culture you are talking about. Every villege and town of india has ghettos. Different catses and religions have always lived in separate areas even in small villeges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com