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Thursday, August 31, 2006

From pro-Vande Mataram to opposing compulsory singing: Why a section of Muslims were against the song and opposed it?


This article was written in 2006. Since then, many times the song has led to controversy. A large number of Muslims have no objection to it but some non-Muslims who are aware of history also oppose it. Reasons for opposition are here:

INDSCRIBE

Once every couple of years the controversy over singing Vande Matram erupts and I remember how I had supported the song in my school days and how my views changed later. [It's not about turning a fundamentalist with age].

I was a good student of Sanskrit, learnt scores of shlokas and was quite interested in its grammar. Hence, I felt that the song does not exactly mean worship and could be sung.

I had a heated debate with many elderly family members then and I always felt that there was no problem in singing it.

The translation of the song makes wonderful reading. The Urdu translation which can be understood by many more Indians than the original words is even more nice to ears.

And after reading the sick novel of Bankim Chandra Chatterji, I still don't have objection to anybody singing it but forcing it, NO. In fact, it was a non-Muslim Bengali friend who had told me about the nature of this novel.

I am no less patriotic than any Indian irrespective of their faith and my ancestors have also done their bit towards strengthening the composite culture and unity of this country. My great grandfather has praised Lord Krishna and Prophet Muhammad in the same breath and patriotism has been part of my Imaan.

I need not give any clarification on that. But if any body has delusions of having a patriotism-meter with which he can test my love towards my motherland, then I don't give this right to anybody, sorry, you would be frustrated.

Bankim Chandra wrote a treacherous novel and anybody who has ever read it will never defend it or the song. The novel is disgusting and its shameful that an Indian wrote it. We have had great Hindu nationalists from the revivalist Vivekananda and a strong Arya Samaji like Pt Ram Prasad Bismil, who held Ashfaq as his younger brother.

Their letters and account of those years can bring tears to our eyes. They all saw Hindus and Muslims as One People, One Race. From 1857 to 1870, more than ONE LAKH Hindus and Muslims were executed by British.

Each day hundreds were sent to gallows in Delhi alone. And Chatterjee makes a mockery of all that. The characters..Jivananad, Bhavanand, Mahendra and Satyananda are all fake...'Jahaan woh musalmaan ka gaaon dekhte use aag ke havaale kar dete' [wherever they found a Muslim village they would set it afire, kill all].

Read the translation in Hindi if you don't know Bangla and the novel is full of words like Mlechhca, Haramkhor, Suar about ordinary Muslims. The killing of Muslims is the aim and arrival of British is their hour of glory. What kind of a revolution is this?

An intense hate of Muslims coupled with an admiration for the WHITE RACE or what? That was why leaders like Subhas Chandra Bose opposed the song. This novel and the song is a betrayal to all that our martyrs and freedom fighters stood for.

Even the two stanzas that are not controversial mean something else in context of the novel. And even if we ignore historical aspect of the song and this novel that kills the dream of millions of freedom fighters and the idea of India itself, I see another design in forcing the song to be sung.

I am proud national of a proud nation. I will surely protest, If I turn evasive things are forced one after other on me. Already the names of all Muslim freedom fighters have been forgotten. The poor Maulana Azad also lost his place this August 15.

The RSS and its sister organisations have already succeeded in many of their plans. They have maligned the Muslims as fundamentalists and terrorists, demonised the madarsas and got us from 30% in jobs to 1% but still we are being APPEASED.

If Vande Mataram is not opposed, then compulsory Saraswati Vandana is the next to come. Just a few years back the NDA government had tried to do that. And then Puja is also not far away. What's the problem?

It may be just a circular in Delhi but when it goes to small government schools in rural areas it becomes more of a norm. I remember my teachers in school just not accepting any argument without even reading a line of the novel or understanding Sanskrit.

Things are happening fast. The agenda is at work. Babri Masjid was demolished. The RSS leaders who had gone to Spain to see how Muslims were eliminated there got it replicated in Gujarat. Muslims have been a target of their campaign as Fifth Columnists.

And the secular parties, intellectuals are silent. Do the journalists who debate on such a issue and keep sermonising us that it was the song of independence movement have the credibility to speak on the subject without reading the book and knowing that it served to defeat our unity.

I was surprised to see the reaction of Sabyasachi Mukerjee, who has written a whole book on Vande Mataram, feign ignorance about its religious context and the anti-national message of Anand Math besides giving a sort of clean-chit to song and wondering why the fuss over it. In BJP-ruled states the madarsas have been directed to publicly render the song.

When 800 farmers commit suicide in Vidarbha alone without a whimper owing to debt and it doesn't become an issue but the Vande Mataram becomes an issue, I must marvel at the way the Sangh is functioning like a monstrous hydra across the political, social, journalistic and other spectra.

But this country can't be allowed to be hijacked by people who have a parochial agenda, who want to turn India like states of Middle East or our failed neighbours where no debate is possible.

Innumerable Hindu brothers will always come forward to defend our right not be forced to sing Vande Matram, I know. They are seeing the trap laid for all of us. I am hopeful the voices would emerge from all nook and corner. This is the beauty of this country.

I don't want confrontation but sometimes if you don't speak and pour your heart out, you are pushed to wall. Read more on here to find why even the two stanzas that are termed as 'should not be objectionable' mean something else.

It is not correct to say that Muslims are anti-Vande Mataram. A section feels that it should not be made compulsory and shouldn't be used as a test of patriotism. That's all. We know its our national song. It has a place along side the national anthem.

In fact, majority of Muslim students voluntarily and happily sing it. Some do oppose it and in a mature democracy there should be a scope for disagreement also. Shouldn't there be? 

For how long Muslims in India will be put to humiliation through such tests on their LOYALTY and Patriotism. I request you to read the novel before making any comment. I assure you you will be disgusted.

Also, more posts on http://indianmuslims.in/and A Faizur Rahman's article at Hindustan Times.com on this issue.

46 comments:

Baraka said...

Thank you for this fascinating insight on the Indian front of struggles being faced by minorities around the world.

koonj said...

An excellent and passionately independent post. I've linked to it.

Mayukh said...

An excellent and informative blog is what I would say about your post.
Well I am from the Bengali Hindu community,by birth not by choice.Given a choice I would love to identify myself as someone whose religion is humanity and race is mankind.

I am not an avid reader,at least I am not the one to read novels for hours....I m more of a technology geek.......The reason why I am telling this is to drive home the point that I haven't read a bengali novel in my life,let alone a BankimChandra novel.So, now after reading ur post, I m really curious to know what is actually in that bankim's novel that made you take a U-turn from your school-days viewpoint.

I do not believe in any religion(I do not believe in anything that is there to divide people and create hatred among them)
But from my childhood I heard my mom and dad say that EVERY RELIGION IS GR8 IN IT'S OWN WAY.

If that is the case,then my question to U(don't take it personally,I have asked this to many of my Indian fellows without a satisfactory answer ... even to my mom and dad) is:

Is religion such a weak thing that a single novel or a painting or a sculpture or a song can malign it??

The reason I am asking this is because I often hear my Hindu brothers say Hussain has maligned our religion by painting a goddess in nude.So we want his blood
Or for that matter my muslim brothers are up in arms aginst Taslima Nasreen,because she has written some crap in her novel,which most of us don't bother to read

When will this stop?I am tired of all these

Beau Peep said...

Islam is more like proprietary software where as Hinduism is more like Open Source.

However, some within the Hindu community is hell-bent upon making it more like Islam.

That's the reason why Vande Mataram has created such controvery.

indscribe said...

Thanks all. Mayukh, actually tolerance has gone down every where. Our generations have less access to families of each other though we may have Hindu or Muslim friends. So relationships on that level are not formed and are more like working relations. Ghettoisation has exacerbated the problem.
Beau Peep, open software thing is interesting.
I as much support the right of Muslims who want to sing Vande Mataram or those who want to pray before Hindu gods and goddesses. And such Muslims are not just musicians. Just that forcing someone is wrong.

Vishnu Vyas said...

Great post and you are perfectly right. Any thing thats done by the government to force the people is wrong.

Infact the root cause of all this stupidity is religion in its core, the fact that people in the 21st century believe in such things as gods is nonsense.

And mayukh regarding is religion such a weak thing. Its a mass delusion without any element of rationality to it, of course its week.

koonj said...

Indscribe, there is discussion on the post where I have linked to this post. Would you mind taking a look at my post and point out any inaccuracies?

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How do we know said...

Just one question: Why don't you see the song in its own context? Why do you see it with reference to the book in the first place?

indscribe said...

dost...baat bas itni si hai patriotism ka test nahin hona chahiye is basis par...aap dekh rahe hain...how hurt one genuinely feels when leaders like Vijay Kumar Malhotra says. send all those who don't want to sing it to Pakistan. It really hurts yaar. Yeh Pakistan ki baat karne se boh't taklif hoti hai...really.

Rohit said...

I was not aware of Vande Mataram's connection to Bankim, and nor did I know of Bankim's novel or its alleged contents. Still, I oppose forcing this song on people as a test of their patriotism, especially when it may go against their religious beliefs.

The BJP must have run out of issues, that is why they are making one out of this non-issue. As you rightly pointed out Adnan, perhaps the plight of farmers is a more worthwhile cause ... but then it does not lend itself well to vote bank politics.

Anyway, what can we the bloggers do about this? I don't think blogging by itself will be enough. Is there something more concrete that can be done? For example, has this Vande Mataram drive been challenged in court? I have faith in the judiciary, and I am sure that if the matter reaches the Supreme Court, it will strike down this silliness.

ASoulInExile said...

I dont have any great opinion about BJP... they are struggling to survive and lack issues.

But I wanted to comment on something remarked in the article.

Adnan, its unfair to say that India has started discriminating against Muslim freedom fighters (ref: Maulana Azad). Its not any unfair on the Indians, than that comments Malhotra makes.

This weekend Madame Sonia Gandhi was visiting out city...and the whole city was choked with banners and cutouts of Sonia, Rajiv and Rahul etc...apart from the local chamcha's of the party. The party has already relegated Gandhi, Nehru and even Indira to history...so what regard do you expect from them for Maulana. Have you seen any of Shastri ji, Sardar Patel, Bose or others either. Long ago there used to pictures of Bhagat Singh and Chandrasekhar Azad in govt offices... long ago and already long gone.

ASoulInExile said...

I dont have any great opinion about BJP... they are struggling to survive and lack issues.

But I wanted to comment on something remarked in the article.

Adnan, its unfair to say that India has started discriminating against Muslim freedom fighters (ref: Maulana Azad). Its not any less unfair on Indians, than that comments Mr. Malhotra makes.

This weekend Madame' Sonia Gandhi was visiting our city...and the whole city was choked with banners and cutouts of Sonia, Rajiv and Rahul etc...apart from the local chamcha's of the party. The party has already relegated Gandhi, Nehru and even Indira to history books. So what regard do you expect from them for Maulana. Have you seen any pictures of LB Shastri, Sardar Patel, Bose or others either. Long ago there used to pictures of Bhagat Singh and Chandrasekhar Azad in govt offices... long ago and already long gone. If anything, they are more likely to reuse Maulana sooner (in UP elections for the vote bank there) than others.

Interesting tit-bit, Ghulam Nabi Azad - the current CM of J&K used Maulana Azad's namesake resemblance for ages to benefit in Congress and in election campaigns (always outside J&K). He never contested elections in his own state all along coz he couldnt fool people there into believing that he was from Maulana Azad' family. (He is no way linked to the freedom fighter).

indscribe said...

May be I am wrong. Actually it was a perception of some friends also. I read about it in papers from other cities.
Yes regarding Subhas Chandra Bose and other revolutionaries, I have discussed it with friends in the past how their portraits that adorned shops and drawing rooms are now a rarity.

aprita said...

Listen vande mataram .
http://www.nagarnews.com/indianpatrioticsongs/vandemataram-lata.htm

Diganta said...

I accept being a Bengali that Ananda Math is an anti-Muslim(or anti-incumbancy) novel. But, Vande Mataram is not famous for it's source, but for it's role in Indian Freedom fight. Why Vande Mataram was chosen as slogan of Indian mass - was a matter of past. Similarly, the author of Sare Jahan se accha later became the source of Pakistan - but that didn't reduce the historical importance of the song. If you buy a product, you possibly test the product itself(Vande Mataram), rather than the source(Anandamath).
Regarding your other points, I agree that it's bad to question one's patriotism over A SONG !! Patriotism is a big enough sentiment and not at all linked to A SONG ALONE.

Raza Rumi said...

Please see related discussions at
http://desicritics.org/2006/09/13/105305.php

Anonymous said...

Diganta,

your post makes sense.

SJ said...

Interesting article.

Just wondering... did you happen to read the book by chance and find out the association to the song, or were you trying to find out the why's and how's of Vande Mataram.

I always wanted to know why there was objection to Vande Mataram - why is there objection to a song that has been accepted unanimously by one group but not by another- but I did not get a satisfactory answer from any person that I asked.

Was also too lazy to delve into the matter deeply myself.

What do you say to AR Rehman's recent (well not so recent anymore) version of it?

Anonymous said...

Patriotism is a religion in itself. It has its sacred rites, sacred myths, sacred songs, sacred objects. It is worse than most religions. I expects every one residing in a particular area to uphold all the sacred symbols and participate in its activities.
I wonder when we will be rid of this evil religon

Pervez

Anonymous said...

I read the novel a long back ago. so donot remember the particulars. I am not a great fan of "Bankim-Chandra as a man". But I will say that he should be discredited more as a coward than as a Muslim hater. As far as I know initially he wrote the novel Anadamath where the fight was faught against british. Then for obvious reasons the book was banned. Then he changed the word "British" to "Muslim". The ban was lifted.
I guess the reason the song was made the "national song" is that the word "bande-mataram" became a by-word of freedom struggle.

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Anonymous said...

ARTICLE POSTED IS NICE TO BE READ. BUT THIS HATRED TOWARDS MUSLIM IS NOT A CREATION OF BRITISH, IT WAS FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL WHICH SOMNATH TEMPLE WAS PLUNDERS, AURANGJEB MASSACRED HINDUS. IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME WAY MUSLIMS, CHRISTIANS AND JEWS FEEL ABOUT EACH OTHER EVEN IN THE MODERN ERA FOR WHAT HAPPENED CENTURIES BACK.

IF YOU THINK VANDE MATRAM IS ANTI MUSLIM AND THE WRITER CREATED A TREACHOROUS NOVEL THEN MOHD IQBAL WHO PENNED SARE JAHAN SE ACHHA HINDUSTAN HAMARA SHOULD BE EQUALLY BE BLAMED FOR MOOTING THE IDEA OF CREATING A SEPERATE MUSLIM NATION. IF MUSLIMS CAN SHUN VANDE MATRAM THEN HINDUS HAVE GOT RIGHT TO SHUN SARA JAHAN SE ACHHA HINDUSTAN HAMARA.

IF YOU GO TO PLACE LIKE HYDERABAD, IT IS GENERALLY SAID THAT INDIA WAS CREATED 60 YEARS BACK AND NO ONE KNOWS WHETHER AFTER 60 YEARS INDIA WILL BE THERE OR NOT. BUT ISLAM WILL BE THERE. THIS SHOWS MUSLIM ARE NOT QUAMI BUT MAZHABI. THEY GIVE DAMN TO THE COUNTRY OF THEIR BIRTH, THE COUNTRY WHICH GIVES SUBSIDY TO GO TO HAJ (NOT A SINGLE MUSLIM NATION GIVES SUBSIDY TO GO TO HAJ AND HINDUS DOES NOT GET SUCH BENEFIT), MINORITY STATUS AND ALLIED BENEFITS. WHAT ELSE IS REQUIRED. BUT HAVING SAID THAT IT IS NOT THE RELIGION WHICH IS CREATING THE PROBLEM BUT THE PEOPLE WHO INTERPRET THE RELIGIOUS EDICTS IN SUCH A MANNER WHICH SUITS THEIR NOTORIOUS PLAN. HINDUS AND MUSLIM ARE JUSK LIKE TWO BANKS OF RIVER, THEY WILL TRAVEL TOGETHER BUT WILL NEVER BE ONE.

Gautam Satpathy said...

You miss the point. Have you stopped to ask why the people of this country are asking that everybody sing Vande Mataram? Yes, it is the people who are asking, not just a few politicians looking for issues to make the front page. The people.

Read my post about this and ask yourself why Muslims in India rae being asked to prove their loyalty.

Zafer said...

PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY ARE ASKING.... BLAH
People are asking? which people? are you kidding? I asked 9 of my hindu friends and 7 doesn't knew the vande matram beyond first line "Vande Mataram".
You say people are asking!!! In our country where some 50% people are illiterate. Where you have got rural areas where people think, Indira Gandhi is still prime minister. Where you encounter old fellows who say how british raj was better.
After checking my friends, I asked my laundry walla, newspaper boy, dudh walla - none of them knew such song actually existed.
I don't think these people are asking.

Gautam Satpathy said...

@Zafer,

And your point is?

50% illiterate? Are you speaking of India or some poor excuse for a country like Pakistan? Secondly, Rural India is much more advanced than you give it credit for. In fact it is so advanced that Indian Mutual Fund houses have special fund offerings that invest in companies with huge rural client bases. Please get your facts straight.

And if an Indian does not know at least the first stanza of Vande Mataram then they should go and learn it. Saying that your poor Hindu friends do not know it does not excuse you from not knowing it!

Indian Muslims can either continue to bury their heads in the sands of time, ignoring the mood of the country which is getting tired of people dying in bomb blasts on sub-urban trains and the streets of Kashmir, or they can wake up and be a part of the nation. And being a part of the nation means you respect all things that are dear to the nation. Including Vande Mataram.

No non-muslim is denying the role of Muslims or their place in Indian society. In fact we are proud that India is home to the largest muslim population in the world. It is up to the muslims whether they will stand up and be counted or if they will be left behind. For India is marching and nobody can stop it!

The only thing holding back the Indian muslim community is itself.

Zafer said...

India is my country and I am proud of it. I am proud of our scientific development, our economic policy and the progress we made since early 90's. (That doesn't mean this pride is not extending to things in the past like our freedom struggle).
Here are the figures
***India Shining ******
Adult Literacy : 61.3%
Youth Literacy : 73.3%
People with Income below
1$ per day: 34.3%
2$ per day: 80.3% !!!!
People below national poverty line:
28.6%
25.0%
(Two different estimates)
Source: Wikipedia
Problem is not with you, actually, you want to force your (and some other people's) view as a view of an entire community. As for the rural areas, I live in a rural area in Maharashtra and see things which are never published in newspapers, never shown on TV. Khairlanji was an exception.

Today, if somebody abuses Gandhian philosphy and thought, and Gandhi himself, it's his freedom of expression. If somebody is not singing a particular song, then, it's quite a different issue altogether.

Ganesh said...

We must consider the timeline in which it was written. At that time, Hindu nation and Muslim nation aspects are delt. India for Hindus and Pakistan for Muslims.

These differences were brought by Jinnah, nationalist turned communalist.

We must be critic on the issues of history by considering the timeline in which they happened and the influence which caused it.

Anonymous said...

I don't care about the author of the song. The only thing I care is that "Vande Mataram" is our national song, as stipulated in the Indian Constitution. This explains why 9 out of 10 Hindus do not fully understand the meaning, but still sing it. But author and other like minded muslims don't think this way and look for the ways to desist the song. The story is fabricated to give another solid reason (non-majhabi) to muslims to desist from singing the song. The actual reason for opposition to the song is the word "Vande Mataram" itself...which means bow to the motherland, but Islam prohibits bowing to anyone else except Allah. Author other commentators are against forcing someone to sing "national song", but none said that forcing someone not to sing is equally bad. I think they are either not aware or ignored that in Agra when a group of 30 nationalist muslims sung Vande Mataram in full public ceremony (which they had organised only to support the national song) were expelled from community by the maulvis and were dictated to cleanse themselves by reading some Quranis verses to come back to Islam, which they had to do.

Anonymous said...

Please do not become Auragzeb .Please accept the song wholeheartedly.It expreses your emotion about YOUR motherland in a very genuinely emotional & beautiful way.

jobdorikindi said...

in the context of the novel, BEING A HINDU i too cant accept "vandemataram"
and i cant say which hindu but some hindus have hurt the feelings of the poet iqbal "sare jahan se achaa" and i understand this song better than vandemataram then why it did not become national song.

As such things and pulling backs happen on both sides. the solution for most communal problems i feel is we must cease to be secularists and feel, behave, and live like humans "JUST HUMANS"

MAUNAM MAHA MANTHRAM = silence is greater than all religious preachings.

jobdorikindi said...

mazhab nahi sikhaatha aapas mein bair rakhna HINDI HAI HUM VATAN HAI HINDUSTAN HAMARA. and he went to pakistan WONDER why? inspite of majority of the people (of all religions collectively ) understood and liked it more than the vandemataram which is in sanskrit and i can sing the whole song but do not understand it. WHEREAS I UNDERSTAND THE SARE JAHA SE ACHHA in full length. that is it.

Anonymous said...

i hope i could have the choice in any country other than india to say this.

in gcc expats are 80% and they dont have civil rights due to islamic laws.

Where as world wide all muslims want equal civil rights and they want their country to support the cause of palestine [ on basis of humanity it might be worth it but not on the basis of religion ]

However this does not extend to any other religions. Malayaisa can ban practice of yoga, indonesia can allow wearing of bikinis, bahrain can have full fledge entertainment for the residence of saudi and kuwait

Pope made nasty remark about islam but america is the closest friend of all rich gcc countries. English actually practices the support to isreal and many a gcc country has diplomatic relation.

I donot understand the concept of our muslim brother undying love for the happening in gcc when terrorism is in peak of action in kashmir or mumbai

indscribe said...

Anon: What Gulf countries do is none of my business. They don't treat women well. Muslims of other countries also get the same treatment as Hindus or others.

Of course, Whites do get better treatment. They are monarchies and I have no sympathy for them.

Please read other posts on this blog. Malaysia didn't ban Yoga, one party said it.

The same thing was said by Christian leaders in America. In India right-wing parties say lot of things. So!

I have no love for GULF. Yes, there is some interest because of holy places of Islam in Saudi Arabia.

Bhai! Try to understand, till recently Hindus were only in concentration in India and Nepal.

Now their population is growing. In 90s when Aniruddha Jagannath or Ramgulam became premiers in Mauritius and Surinam etc, Indian newspapers took interest. Why?

Because they were Hindus and had 300 yr old Hindu connection. As Hindu population increases, take my word...there will be greater interest regarding Hindu populace of those countries in India. This is natural human tendency. Nothing else.

Safer Mirza said...

zafer u gotta understand 1 thing - the muslim population in india is below that average, while the christians and sikhs are above it. the hindus form the median. so look at ourselfs first before blaming the world.

Rohit Singh said...

Interesting conversations! Everyone seems to out do each other on Vande matram and its ill effects on Muslims and their faith. How about banning the vande matram altogether ? Maybe that will prove the tolrance of Hindus towards Muslims!Ignorance about who Bankim Chandra was has belittled the sacrifice of our elders. Issue came up when many schools in Muslim majority areas declined to have their pupil sing this national song. There is always counter-reaction to reaction. Lets blame Hindus and patriotism for the conditions of Muslims in India and be happy and be more secular!!

Anonymous said...

I understand and agree that the history of the song is divisive. There were objections by leading nationalist figures: Tagore,
Maulana Azad, Nehru and Subhash Chandra Bose especially with the later stanzas. The book itself is also divisive.

But one cannot ignore the other part of the history: it was a march song, "the unofficial national anthem" during the freedom movement.

So, I do think it is best to accept and ignore its origin, and to remember it by its contribution to our freedom movement.

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Anonymous said...

I am sorry to say but this article just comes across as a lame excuse for not singing the national song.

If you want to keep your religion above your motherland, be a man and say it. We are not going to oppose. But to dismiss a piece of our culture & tradition like some trash is simply uncalled for.

I don't care what the novel says, I am not even concerned about who wrote Vande Mataram. All I'm concerned about is the meaning of this beautiful song. What's wrong in praising your motherland? Don't you bow down to Mecca & Medina? Why not the land that gave you life? Or is it simply too unislamic to do so?

I request my muslim brothers not to fall in this trap laid by extremists. Sing the Vande Mataram with as much ferocity as you say your prayers. Don't let your religion come in the way of your patriotism.

Jai Hind!
Vande Mataram!

Shashwat D.C. said...

Indi Bhai.. main aapse bas ek baat kahna chahta hoon..Jis tarah humen is mulk ke muslimon ko kahne ka haq naheen hain ki aap vande mataram gayyain, waise hi, aapko iss gaana ko naheen nakarna chahiye. By saying that the muslims shouldn't sing this song, you make it a issue. Any Indian, be it a Hindu or a Muslim, has the choice to sing or to not so. But, don't make it a fundamental issue.

As far as your arguments against Bankim goes, to Bhai, woh daur kuch aur tha. At that time in history, the feeling was different, now its different. Ab Aurangzeb ne jo Hinduyon pe atyachaar kiye kya uss wajah se we should stop reading him at all. We need to understand one thing, we are people of external circumstances. Woh uss waqt ki baat thi, yeh aaj ki baat hain.

The point most frequently raised against Vande Mataram is that it worships the motherland, which apparently is not allowed in Islam. Daraar to iss argument se aati hain. Kya iss desh ke musolmaano ko unka dharm unki zameen se pyaara hain. Agar han? To kal agar ek Muslim desh (Pakistan) hum pe hamla karega to whom will the Indian Muslims support, their fellow country men or their fellow muslims?

Agar hum aapke Bankim wale arguments ko le, to humen Tagore wala Jan Gan Man bhi naheen gana chahiyen woh to Angrezi Emperor ki shaan mein likha gaya tha. To uss gane ka virodh kyun naheen hota hain.

Iss liye, mera suggestion sirf yeh hain ki naa Vande Mataram compulsory hona chahiye, aur na hi woh ban (fatwa, wagarah) hona chahiye. Jise gaana hain woh gaye, hindu, mussalman, sikh, isayi. Aur jise na gaana ho wo na gaye..Bas itni si to baat hain..

Khair, I really liked your blog, hopefully we will debate a lot in the coming days, probably there are many things that I will learn from you..

Namashkaar

Mayuresh said...

Jai Hind,
Your article is very good.
I am a Maharashtrian Hindu.
Let me put my point first.
'Vande Mataram'-rejected for it's from very bad book.
then why are we still singing 'Sare JAhan se accha'.A song written by an asshole iqbal, a very father of nation of pakistan.This man first put the idea of pakistan and seperated our very brethern from us. Then surely the reasons you give for rejecting 'Vande Mataram' holds good for this song as well.
In 1905 this very song(VM) proved knot uniting hindu-muslims of bengal . Or thing is that maulana Azad was fool and you the only wise roaming this earth.
Also our national anthem 'jana-gana-mana' originally written to welcome the then worst enemy of india 'BRITISH PRINCE'. But it was accepted as anthem, now not for it's historical importance(as is the case with VM) but for the words use in it ofcourse taken without context. Shall we oppose it too. You getting my point!!
Look thing is that you shouldn't look at all this issue in this way. Forget the book(I know you may not,but try it), think about lakhs and lakhs of indians hindus muslims alike chanting this very words while accepting lathis of british. BABU GENU throwing himself in front of the truck loaded with videshi kapada while chaning he same words. Think of the thousands of martyrs who have died for this very words. Just think of them. And I am confident that you will find no objection in these martyrs, and the words(taken without context) which inspired them.
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Anonymous said...

The book in its original version described conflict between sanyasis and the British. It was banned. A subsequent release substituted Muslims for British, to be able to publish the book.

This substitution fooled no one back then, including the Muslims at that time. But looks like it did fool at least one Muslim of today! Rememeber, the sanyasi rebellion, which inspired this book was against the British. And there were similar (and parallel) rebellions by Fakirs!

Talk about twisting logic to fit an argument. Don't sing the song if you won't, but why rationalise your choice by trashing an important piece of Indian cultural history?

Anonymous said...

very interesting information! .

Anonymous said...

my brother, Bankim had wanted to release it against British, it was converted into against muslims by Brit divide and rule policy. Brit never wanted Indian muslims and hindus to unite and live, cause if indians united they would not be able to rule over them

Bunty Gandhi said...

Just think once ..kitne indians ko original wala sanskrit vande mataram pura aata bhi hai ?? aur bankim chattopadhyay wala sanskrit vande mataram to likha hi gaya tha british officer ko welcome karne ke liye .phir bhi sanskrit wale ya ar rahman wale vande mataram ko apmanit karne ka maksad to hona hi nahi chahiye.aur usme maa ko pujne kee baat hai to iss baat ka farman fatwa banakar puri kom pe thopa nahi jaana jaaye aur govt ki bhi sab se compulsory gava ne ki mansha nahi honi chahiye... aur ha dusri cheejo ko lekar vande mataram pe aitraaj nahi hona chahiye.jara yaad kijiye bharat bala wala video ..vande mataram ko elive aur khas to younger generation mein popular banane ka credit to A R Rahman - Mehboob ko jaata hai ..aur kya ye kehna galat hai kee jab vande mataram a r rahman wala video dekhte hai to ek ajab see energy nahi aa jati hai ..to phir aitraaj kis baat ka ..apni samajdaari honi chahiye naa

Anonymous said...

I say, IF AFTER EVERY MORNING PRAYERS AND BEFORE WE GO OUT FOR WORK IF WE ALL JUST SAY in our own mother tongue:

"INDIA is my own country. ALL citizens are Indians and they are my very own. I swear to protect it by not indulging in corruption and to oppose all corruption".
This SHOULD BE A MORE BETTER STATEMENT FROM PARLIAMENTARIANS INSTEAD OF SINGING SONGS and INDULGING in CORRUPTION>