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Wednesday, April 11, 2007

When Hindu girls elope with Muslim boys or vice-versa...


A Hindu girl and a Muslim youth [or vice-versa] elope and the result is that tension grips the entire town.

If the girl is Hindu, the Bajrang Dal or other fringe organisations create a storm and demand that the girl is brought back while the culprit [youth] be arrested for kidnapping.

It is later found that the girl and boy who run away were adult and had married as per law. The affidavit was submitted in the court.

In a recent case, the real bombshell comes when they find that: it was not the girl who converted but the boy who not only changed his name but also underwent 'Shuddhikaran' to become a Hindu. Now what! The loony organisations are left without an issue.

So they demand that the couple should be handed over to them and they will do his 'Shuddikaran' and make him wear the sacred thread as it could be just a trick of a Muslim to increase their population by luring innocent Hindu girls.

The couple now shows CD of the video recording of their marriage as per Vedic rites and also the priest's version of conversion. Still, you must give credit to Bajrang Dal and such right-wing organisations who insist that it is wrong.

After all, they are our moral guardians and culture cops. They turn pro-Muslim and say that the inter-religious marriage is fundamentally wrong as ' Islamic and Hindu cultures can't coexist, both families will have difficulty in adjusting and what about their children--no matter what happens, the society can't accept it'.

And even go a step ahead to say, 'what will happen to Muslim girls if the Muslim boys won't marry them and instead take away the Hindu girls'. Just see the concern! Otherwise in the society as well, people get divided on communal lines and also as per their interests.

An RSS sympathiser would rue that the Hindu youths are so busy in studies and competitive examinations that the Muslim youths who are free to loiter and have ample time, manage to coax the Hindu girls. Amongst Muslims you will also find similar voices.

As long as Bajrang Dal and other outfits were complaining, they were happy but when the boy's conversion to Hinduism is known, they would change their stand. They begin question the concept of love marriage: 'mahaul kharaab hota hai, koii faida nahiin, apni ladkiyaan ghar par baithii hain...sort of crap.

So whether its a Hindu girl or a Muslim girl or boy of either religion (or even Christian), most people would love to forget that adults can marry in a free country as per law. They would cite all sorts of weird reasons and try to prove that it is the worst of crimes. The police also loves it.

In the past a poor couple and handicapped couple was harassed. See the earlier post.

They can convert the case of missing person into abduction [or kidnapping] to put pressure on the boy's family for extortion. They would cite that the complainant's family had told that the girl was not yet 18 though she may be 20 or more.

Kin of the families would be illegally detained and made to cough up money. Watching a movie everybody stands for the hero and heronie and for end to obstacles in marriage so that there is happy ending but in real life, it's so different.

How hypocrite and narrow-minded we are as a society. Here is the story that had all these ingredients mentioned above. Read the story here. Now read the tragic love story of Rizwanur Rehman and Priyanka Todi, opposed by the multi-millionaire girl's family. Rizwanur was tortured and later found dead in mysterious circumstances.

Read it here.

51 comments:

p_r_a_g_n_e_s_h said...

i am really impressed.. the each n every word was correct... actully the world is full of hypocrytes and so are we.. i am jain by birth.. and i really appreciate if someone marry in intercaste or interreligion.. we need to do this atleast for this country to keep harmony alive.. and i really got a very good n informative website today.. thanks and hatts off to admin n author.. jai hind..

Ramees said...

i really dont support inter cast inter religion marriages but i dont stop a person from marrying a Hindu girl or vice versa.....bcz at the end of the day its their life and they have to decide whom they want to be as a life partner.....

Anonymous said...

It is very unfortunate about the intercaste marriages. Marriage between two adults is not a simple man-woman coming together, but much more than that. Each caste is a sum total of its way of life -from eating habits to worshipping habits. Certain beliefs and outlook at life. These young kids, driven by the wreck caused by the harmonal influence, are blind to the reality. It only strikes later in their life when the harmone-effect wears off and emotional and spirutaul feelings start replacing the same. By the time it is too late. It is perfectly possible for two human beings to choose life of togetherness even if they are not in direct contact ( like the situations of intercaste marriage) as long as the value-system is the same for these two. Quite true if hey hail from same caste, though there could be some minor differences owing to educational and affluence levels of the respective individuals.

aps said...

boy !! That's horrifying....I dont know when our people will come out of the dark shadows of the religion and the tradition. Marrying somebody is totally proivate decision and no one should be able to interfere in it. Be it Bajrangis, or any other group...nobody has got the right to question the inalienable right of the self determination. This is time for the youth to stand up against this and assert our independence and self-determination. Human dignity and prode is above all and no society has right to infringe it.

humanbeing said...

See to overcome and stop religion .. Muslim girls hsould also marry hindu boys .. which is now happening/

I am myself married to a muslim girl

There should be any rules for muslimman and muslim women

We are leaving in 21 century .. if we follow 6 century rules there will hatred only ...

Love is eternal and no geeta no quran is bigger than that as Loveis itself god

Why muslim kill hindu boy when he marries a muslim girl ... That ios the reason Bajrang dal and other outfitsd are there

This is a known fact that India is a Hindu state and you cannot deny that .. Its not a secular country and its on paper only

Accept this truth.....

Anonymous said...

i really liked the article if a hindu girl is ready to marry muslim guys there will be full furore .......... definetely hindu girls like muslims boys and the average of hindu girls turning muslims is more not only in india but all;over the world it is not debateable evry ndivisuals know that
...... few months back former haryana chief minister son and his girl friend both hindus converted to islam without any pressure form any outside body this media will never catch and put in media .....but when muslim girls turn hindus it highlights this should not be there in a democratic country like india we have freedom to marry anyone ,,, cheers to guys who do intercaste marriage

Srinivas said...

I had an affair with a muslim girl and converted to islam.
But after my conversion, i realised that islam can be like a drug and then i quit islam.
Unfortunately, my girl friend was not willing to marry me if i quit islam; so had to give up on her.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately the world/society does not accord full freedom for interfaith marriages to work out. In few cases that I have observed, they do work out if there is tolerance of both religions/cultures...ie no full/irrevocable conversions. In most cases though (including my own) where there is a condition of conversion from one party there are undue expectations which can be difficult to meet. In my case, if I had been accepted the way I was, I am so sure I would have eventually converted as I am now a happy convert. Unforunately my spouse had put terrible pressures on me and our marriage fell apart. So here I am ...a convert to my spouse's religion ...but no spouse! The way I see it "there is no faith in interfaith marriages"...If my spouse had faith in their own faith then within time their faith would have happily conquered me.

Anonymous said...

muslim girl's who have got an iota of faith(imaan) should not marry any non-muslim..it is straight invitaion to the hell-fire in the life hereafter

Rand said...

I encourage Muslim girls to freely convert to any religion of their choice, as long as they found their life partner. This is the best way eliminate relligious hatred. Good luck.

Anonymous said...

u write so many things with a certain perspective....thats good.
But i think main problem with Muslims(including you) in india is they are not Indians first, u guys are Muslim Indain.
In my town 100 kms away from Aligarh, i hav seen Muslims Openly supporting Pakistan ...now whats ur take?

A Pragmatist said...

So muslims who are Indian are not Indians? (refering to the last post). What a load of bs. Muslims were born in India and have been brought up there and share the same norms as everyone else in India. Just because we are muslims doesn't make us not Indian. Comments like these are really unacceptable.

Lets see some proof of the Muslims supporting Pakistan. Also, whenever some riots emerge, the BJP claims minority appeasement as the excuse/cause. What the BJP really want is the real question we need to ask!

Anonymous said...

You don't even realise how communal you sound. While presenting your rosy picture of secularism, you go on bashing BJP, RSS, VHP et al. Have you ever commented negatively on the communal mullahs who control the average muslim like a mindless zombie or a drone.
So it's secularism for muslims to vote enblock but if the Hindus do so it's communal. There is that saying, i'm reminded of after reading your posts, Aap naache to fashion aur hum naache to pesha!!
Really nauseating some of your articles.

Anonymous said...

Want to solve inter religious marriage prob, then go for Uniform civil code. That will make polygamy, triple talq etc prob go away. It is only natural for parents to worry for their daughter(Being victim of polygamy, etc). You your self wrote of a muslim girl getting duped by an NRI muslim, married and divorced in no time.

Dipanjan said...

There is still a one sided practice and feeling in India,which is changing soon--it is that most of the Muslims consider a Muslim girl can not marry a Hindu boy,A Muslim can not convert but a Muslim boy can marry a Hindu girl or make a Hindu convert.So only good fruits to Muslims and peels to Hindus?Man whatever is written in the religious scriptures,according to supreme Indian law any adult Indian can marry another adult Indian of opposite sex of any religion without conversion and they should not be first cousins or siblings.So the cases are completely legal whatever Islamic or Hindu law say.But the problem is that many Muslims(many of them in this thread already)say India is secular,why not support Hindu girls marry Muslim boys;but at the same time they say a Muslim girl without imaan should not marry a Hindu etc..what a hypocrisy!Secularism should be one faced..so if the Hindu girl-Muslim boy case is not opposed..the opposite should also be accepted.After all this is not Pakistan or Saudi Arabia.
But the situation is changing..many educated learned Muslims are supporting Hindu boy-Muslim girl cases(they may not be so called staunch devout Muslims,apply this priority in Pakistan and Saudi..this is India man).As for myself..I am a Hindu,and my would be is a Muslim,in her family there are 3 instances of Muslim boy-Hindu girl and 3 instances of Muslim girl-Hindu boy.So if Muslims argue what the problem Hindu boy-Muslim girl, they should also not utter the old tape..no Muslim girl should marry Hindu boy--Muslims should not convert etc...

Anonymous said...

i totally agree with the most of the views expressed in this blog that yes muslim girls should also marry hindu boys.i was also a muslim girl but married a hindu boy and also converted to hinduism.i think it is good for the muslim girl only if she marrys a hindu boy. she should decide whether she wants to remain backward or wants to move with the world. many many educated muslim girls are now marrying other relegion boys.it is really good for a secular country like india muslim girls should come forward and marry hindu boys.

Anonymous said...

yes muslim girls should marry non-muslim boys but only if the latter chooses to accept Islam, and similarly muslim boys should marry non-muslim girls only if they are willing to accept Islam.

Quran 2:256 There is no compulsion in religion

Anonymous said...

Love definitely overrides everything when marrying, but once the reality hits you everything evaporates.
Lots of times just people from same religion and same caste can not survive together.
You feel awful that you left your religion for this idiot or idiotah!!!

hindblogger said...

Friends- a window from the past !

Have a look at: http://hindblogger.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/sand-of-times-hindu-and-muslim-living-in-harmony/

Anonymous said...

Any boy should be able to marry girl as long as they are of marriagiable age. This is the constitution of India.
Muslims gloat when a Hindu girl marries a Muslim boy and converts to Islam.
On the other hand, they scream murder (and in cases actually murder) when a muslim girl marries a hindu boy.
Total hypocricy.

Anonymous said...

Well I have seen posts by both the communities and I say mistake is with the both.Taali Kabhi Ek Haat Se Nahin Bajti. Hindus foul cry that a hindu girl is marrying a muslim boy but not vice versa. I dont understand why is that a precondition. And as for my muslim brothers,They say its fine if hindu girls marry muslim boys or vice versa but in the end they must convert to Islam.Now why is that compulsion,Eh?

Free and Footloose said...

I support Hindu-Muslim marriages as long as no conversion out of Hinduism is involved and the children are brought up as Hindus. And no Sir, I do not believe religion is a matter of personal choice. Go tell that to the Pakis, Saudis, Iranis and Malaysians.

Ravi said...

Re:Srinivas--You did good, otherwise u will also be on the hitlist.

Re: A Pragmatist
Come to Kaithoon, a small town in KOTA district of Rajasthan. See yourself that the Muslim living there call themselves Pakistani not Indians. They say -- "hum to pakistani hein...yahan to bas khane kamane ke liye pade huye hein".
A person living there told me that they celebrated Pak victory in T20 WCup, and they always celebrate Pak victory never an Indian victory

indscribe said...

Ravi....

Just the way you 'heard someone say' that Muslims in that place celebrate Pak win, I also 'heard' that you are a traiter and agent of a foreign country with the aim to divide Hindus and Muslims in India and instigate the communities. Your agenda is spreading hate to weaken India. Now go back to your masters who pay you. Jaichand Ravi.

Anonymous said...

I am surprised that no one has explored the option of retaining the original religions even after the inter-religious marriage. Why does one have to convert to marry someone from the other religion? Shahrukh and Gauri can be a good example and so can be Hritik and Suzainne. They celebrate Holi, Diwali, Ed alike.

rsk said...

IF ANY HINDHU GIRL IS MARRYING MUSLIM
I PREFER HONOUR KILLING

Anonymous said...

when muslim girl marry to hindu boy muslim start riot and u kill hindu boy if does not convert to islam muslim are double standard people

indscribe said...

Anon ji: Please do some research. First thing there are crazies everywhere.

Second thing, in 90% of cases whenever a Hindu girl runs with Muslim boy, the Bajrang Dal and VHP go out on streets holding demos and even leading to riots.

Please try to see things in persepective than turning it into Hindu Vs Muslim.

You can check the names mentioned in this post to see news stories and find out who does the rioting more.

Anonymous said...

Guys i also lov muslim gal she loves me too but her parents said make him muslim n then i let u marry with him.What a crap?Why ppl forget the gr8 religion humanity here.We all r same god gave muslims same organs n same things as he given to hindus.My girlfriend also support her parents i realise it becoz she force me to b muslim.But i think lov should b unconditional if u ask some1 convert means u not lov as human.When i went her house her family like me they were impressed but when i refuse to convert they started hate me.Hahaha u c its islam where u hate or lov person becoz he is muslim or he is hindu.Guy i tell u here 4m experience plz if u hav lov in ur heart then never ask ur spouse to convert becoz if u ask means u dont lov.Just when u get in relation with muslims just clear 1st that u wont convert becoz later if u tell it it will b u who will hurt becoz u went too long to forget lov.
I am very happy to hear that some muslim gals get marry hindus n i salute them but if ur hindu boy ask u convert then dont do it.just stay as who u r n carry ur religion.If ur hindu boy lov u then he will respect the way u r.After all in quran n in geeta or any religious book its written u should lov the person as who he/she is n thats the real lov.

Sadia Komal said...

Impressive

Anonymous said...

@Indscribe: you are not being honest in this article. I am also from Bhopal and have stayed for a very large part in Ahmedabad Palace long time back.And later in Koh-e-fiza.
I have seen blatant double standards from Muslims when it comes to inter-religion marriage. The point being the non-Muslim has always to convert to Islam whether it's the boy or girl. Somewhere on your blog you mention Muslim girls marrying Hindu boys(without converting the boy I assume), can you name a few such couples?

I also remember the the overt glee in Ahmedabad Palace when Pakistan used to win cricket/hockey matches. I am not IMAGINING things but stating my actual experience. Remember Colonel Fazal(Fazal Miyan). When Bhopal Gas Tragedy happened he remarked to us that he thought Pakistani Airforce has bombed Bhopal! At the same time let me confess I have Muslim friends with Hindu wives who have not been converted to Islam. In fact they respect each other's religion and celebrate both festivals.

indscribe said...

ANON: When you have such strong notions, you will only see what you want to see.

There are fundamentalists everywhere and also it is a chance that sometimes you meet a few more people of a particular kind but it doesn't mean you form such weird ideas and generalise things.

There are dozens of Muslims I personally know who coverted to Hinduism.

Two of my friends, one Anjum became an Anju while another girl Shabana became Ragini.

As far as celebrities are concerned the list is so long ranging from Nargis Dutt who became Nirmala Dutt to Suzanne Khan.

Actresses Khushboo, Sonam also converted to Hinduism. In other fields, you find Ustand Alauddin Khan's grandson Ashish and famous bard Amar Sheikh's daughter, Roshanara Khan etc etc etc

And what do you mean by Fazal Miyan's reaction. It means one imagines that an enemy has attacked us. Isn't it.

Or else? If there is some other 'thought' which you imagine, then I don't understand why would a city that has comparatively much higher Muslim population be attacked!

Please be sensible enough. I let your comment published as hate-mongers who write such stuff without even daring to reveal their name, have no business to spread hate.

It is such divisive ideology that hurts India. Please stop doing this.

Vinaysheel said...

To the blog owner: Your rational take on the Hindu-Muslim issues is really hard to come by. Hats of to you.[As an atheist, I regard religion and problems arising between people out of religious differences as absurd and misguided. It's about rationality, not religion. If you have a mind and know how to use it, you'll need no religion to define/rationalize/justify yourself or your actions.] Muslim issues is really hard to come by. Hats of to you.[As an atheist, I regard religion and problems arising between people out of religious differences as absurd and misguided. It's about rationality, not religion. If you have a mind and know how to use it, you'll need no religion to define/rationalize/justify yourself or your actions.]

Gaurav said...

these examples are very rare,very rare compared to muslim guys marrying a hindu girls n girl is being converted.Common its Its evident we all know it.THe situation is so worst among Hindus that we find at least 1 case in evey vacinity where hindu girls being converted.

Anonymous said...

Allah and His Prophet (MUhammad-peace be upon him) Have the final say in the affairs of Muslims, whether it is marriage, divorce, war, peace, politics or business. Allah and His Prophet banned the marriage between muslim and idol worshippers. Unless and until the boy or girl accept Islam wholeheartedly (not just for marriage or one day ceremony or to fool the people), the marraige is not valid, it is haram and the children born are haram if the laws of Islam are broken. Because our life and death is in the Hands of Allah and we all are under the power of Almihgty Allah, The Only God, we shoudl not worry about foolish people's sayings and comments. Do as what Allah and His Final and the Greatest Prophet Command. Others are all His slaves even if they deny. They depend on Allah even for a single breathe. If Allah willed death for some one in the sleep, they won't be opening their eyes next day morning. So beware of cunning people and deceitful who say false things. Allah is our Guide. Let us follow Islam our Road to Salvation and Heaven.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous i must say that you are such a hypocrite. Now you are talking about Islam and all. You are only thinking about your own Religion? I must say your Religion is the curse in this world. All the problems happen only because of your Fanatic Behavior. Change yourself!

hin said...

hello.i am a hindu and in love with a bohra muslim boy who all of a sudden called me to say that he is leaving me because he cannot go against his religion. we had spent 2 beautiful years. i have been crying a lot but he is very rigid.is this what islam teaches.? play with people's emotions, use them for pleasure and then leave them if u realise they are hindus!! i am too disturbed and want him back. i am a brahmin and i wouldnt have ever left him because of him being a muslim. i need help.

Rupa Abdi said...

@ all those commenting on inter-religious marriage, but are not a part of it: Baigaani shaadi main Abdullah diwaanaa !!

Anonymous said...

according to my experience Muslim religion is very beautiful and Muslim parents force their daughter/son's partner to change their religion because there are so many things in Muslim religion without which marriage is not possible.if a person has knowledge about Muslim religion then he start love Muslim religion.

Anonymous said...

Hindus brothers are not familiar with ISLAM,thats y they are commenting like this on ISLAM.
For ur kind information ISLAM is the only religion on the earth.other s are myth only, believe me dont get angry,its global fact u have to accept it any how,u can realized when u look in the ur surroundings,who has made SKY without hole,without support,who has made earth,who is sprinkling water from sky,just think about it.That is only ALLAH (GOD).
u can c QURAN it is came from sky,it is open challenge to whole mankind from 1430 years to made a single worse like QURAN,no one could do that yet,just think about it,why it is not possible,since it is made by ALLAH.not by man.this is the fact of islam.
Now come to the point, the girls who r loving with hindus they are not religious,they dont know about islam,they are lusty,just they want to fulfill their lust with any male that could be hindu,christan,sikh or any other person that is not matter for them.
Because only islam respect women.Purda is to protect them from bad gaze of other mens.

Anonymous said...

It is his bad luck that he has chosen the wrong way for himself which leads to hell.People who think that religion is just for name sake under this whatever u want u can do that.kindly think that one day everyone will die and will be present in-front of their lord.what will u say then.This is the question for those who support this kind of activities.So don't think that Religion is just for name sake.Islam has given some rules and regulations for it's followers.so we muslims have to follow it.People those who have given supporting comments tell me if ur sister or brother have done this kind of thing what will u do.Think about it.Commenting on others is so easy.

Anonymous said...

Dear All,

I wish i had enough hands to write simultaneously, all over the internet and let it spread , in the world that it is a personal choice when a muslim girl or a boy ceases to continue relationship on grounds of his / her religion, asking the other person to convert. Same goes with Hindus. At the end of te day , face it , God (Allah/Bhagwan/Allmighty) has prescribed no book where he has asked to discrminate other than good and bad, at the most.
I dont believe an Idol worshipper is a sinner! its his way of connecting and keeping his/her belief intact, in God. If one can bow down to religious books , like in Islam and Sikhism, what is the problem, if someone is considering an idol ,as medium to connect to God ?

And as I said, relirious fanatic are those who would never prefer inter-religion connections, hypocrites are those who rveal after years of relationship that they cannot continue the relation on grounds of different religious belief and true are those who do not mind losing their love but clear out that the other person has to convert, to see a future, alongwith.
But I honour people, who do not bring religion , at all , while connecting to people and maintaining their relations !
No God will throw these logical people to hell !
And even if such logical people would go to hell of their respective religions too, I bet they would make it heaven, as they do not believe things just for the heck of it.
Come On guys why do you blame religions even after knowing you do things just as per your convinience.Try to be the logical human . god has given brains not to be cunning but to be logical.

MySay.in

Aasim zaki said...

hindus and muslims must not marry each other. In my opinion cultures of both religion are very complex.so muslim girls and boys should never marry with hindu.

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Anonymous said...

Fu&** off all u freakin dumboz......v all drink water and it has no religion bt stll it satisfies our thirst whether v r hinduz o muzlimz.....so y not b lyk water n clean all d dirt from r minds n r respective countries"fundamentalist....."

Anonymous said...

To all of you sweet- spoken MODERATE muslims & rest of the IGNORANT hindus--> Marriage is not just about your f&**ng, romantic, filmy love affairs. Its a merging of 2 different cultures!! any mingling of hindu- muslim matrimony result in the Socio-political threat for Hindus. Many of your posts revolves around the idea that 'WHY A MUSLIM BOY-HINDU GIRL PAIR IS MORE IN NUMBER THEN HINDU BOY-MUSLIM GIRL ???'--> Why cant you see the bigger problem?? The ancient hindu culture has been systematically persecuted through this methods. And you idiots are still revolving around the idea of 'WHY THERE IS NO FAIR PROPORTION OF HINDU-MUSLIM MARRIAGES AMONG BOYS AND GIRLS' and thinking of improving this proportion .--> hindu- muslim marraiges should be seen as threat to our future. But i hope my hindu brothers and sisters may come out of their bollywood dreams someday!! There is one post above, which says that there are many muslims boys who married hindu girls and they respect each others on

Anonymous said...

Here it is worth mentioning that in majority of the cases, muslim girls are accepted in Hindu families with due respect and dignity and allowed full freedom to lead her married life. Whereas in muslim communities women are subject to several restrictions, insecurity of talak etc. Male is allowed to have 4 wives but a female is tortured even for basic facilities whether it is education, job and marriages etc. Even talak process from female is very rigid and in majority of cases female is blamed.

tamanna tiwari khan said...

good one... a marriage is not made up of perfectly matched people it is made of those who want to match themselves perfectly...this applies not only to the bride and the groom but also to their extended families...the world was made for co-existance ....u just have to make a little effort for it

shubha61 said...

Tamanna Tiwary Khan,I feel there is nothing wrong about it. Even hundreds of girls mary Muslim guys heaven is not falling. Muslim boys have great qualities which Hindu boys do not have. Muslim boys keep happy Hindu girls.OK
Shubha

Anonymous said...

Sister me have same problem am Muslim boy and i like a Hindu girl she loves me lot as compared me,bt i have to quit her because of her family they hate too much from Muslim,they are saying dat kill her if she talks to me